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I won't say I believe in Illuminati but..

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:24 am
by Aemeth
I been wondering about the following website...this "game" was made in like '95 or something...

What is the deal? Is it a complete hoax or what?

http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1753.cfm

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 5:14 am
by AYHJA
In fact, he knew the Plan so exactly he got a surprise visit from the Secret Service, who tried their best to shut him down and prevent him from publishing his game.

That's enough for me...

The fucking secret service doesn't enter your crib and TRY shit...If they enter your crib, they already know what they are looking for and where to find it...If the gov't doesn't want you to publish some shit...And go through those lengths...Kid, that shit ain't gettin' published...

I'd love to be proven wrong about this, but I've seen people get blackballed for less...

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 2:02 pm
by raum
OK, I lived with some hard-core gamers for a bit, and know far too much about this. I also used to party with mark Reinhagen, who is the guy who invented that damn Vampire game. I know the whole history of his company, and he be livin fat off of that grip that he got for sellin his game company White Wolf to the people who made Magic the Gathering card game. I also know more about the origins of the Illuminatus than most people, simply because takes one to know one.

Steve Jackson MAKES two-bit games, you can find in your role-playing game section. He takes themes of other games, or epics of science fiction, and makes a substantial bit of money throwing them on top of a generic d20 dice system. People who play his games usually argue that his universal 20-sided dice system is the best. His system is called GURPS.

One exception is The Illuminati card game... This is based off of the theme and content of his Illuminatus Role-Playing game, which is in turn based off of the Illuminatus trilogy, written by Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson. Wilson met Jackson, at a private party where a bunch of people were.

It came out when card games were eating the market, and was a neat gimmick. Even better was a game aled Lunch Money, where you assumed the roles of catholic school girls, and "pimp-slapped with righteousness" and laid upon "the hand of god" and "beat down with a bible" each other trying to take the other players pennies representing their "life points" (i.e. their "lunch money").

The Illuminatus trilogy is definetely something to read,.. but it is not "secretly knowing" as much as "learning how to discover by allowing the imagination to wonder." I have, in my life, wore four mantles in the Illuminati, and still the Eye in the triangle burns on my forehead.

I know no less than 15 people who knew the towers would be hit. I know someone who was there on the plane that missed the capital building... not the white house.

and even I can see this website is crazy. David Icke is a cooky guy, and if he is right, we're are all lizard food, anyway.

Read this: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~tilt/principia/ it is the origin of Robert Anton's work, while he was a college student. This is the prime inspiration of Steve jackson. He takes sci-fi giants and makes their work into games that people can play.

And before you laugh it away, consider that the first copies of it were made on a xerox machine that was at the law offices where his co-author's girlfriend worked - The law offices of Jim Garrison - before kennedy was slain. It is at that point he was an element of some investigation into the peripheral of the case.

furthermore, it was Phrack that was under investigation, for printing documents that reveal telephone conventions allowing misuse of the emergency system to access secured communication routes, which are in place for 911 calls. These were being revealed and hackers were encouraged to use them for such activities such as credit card fraud. Steve jackson games was making a game called "GURPS"Cyberpunk, based off of many of the works of William Gibson's established genre & the popularity of the Cyberpunk 2012 (2020, is second edition) role playing game. Sidenotes abound, as I used to play this game. One of the writers of the rule book (NOT Steve Jackson) had gotten the interest of the people who published Phrack, 2600, and other hacker rags, and had recieved documents to make his "net-cowboys" seem far more authentic than other games. (Side note, perhas the oddest cyber-punk game was Shadowrun, which merged sci-fi with a corporate instituted middle-earth if you will.) His computers were siezed because they were evidence that Phrack was actually TEACHING people how to hack. The evidence was inconclusive. The Illuminatus cardgame had nothing to do with it. One of the best evidences is that operation sundevil (the move against Phrack) was in 1990. After the legalbattle, GURPS cyberpunk was released and most people rused to get it,.. and then sighed when it was far too rule-heavy and not neary FUN enough. The Illuminati card game was released in 1998,.. I know this because this was the year after I moved in with the guys to the house where some crazy shit happened (see below). They both worked at Games of Berkeley, and gaming was their life. By the way I met them in 1995, over a game of Cyber-punk, where i first met HER (you know who I mean Ty.)

If is for this reason that the rulebook to GURPS Cyberpunk gives thanks for its "Unsolicited Comments" to the The United States Secret Service.

His son goes by the name "Hakim Bey" and formed T.A.Z., (Temporary Autonomous Zone) - a living condition which inspired Antero Ali.

I know so much about this, saw this website and laughed. Cause I know Wilson gets his kicks from dropping people straight into Chapel Perilous, and he's damn good at it. But me, I was a personal study to the people who taught the people that Taught Wilson everything he knows, and he and I are connected, through some common ties.

One of which is a neat anecdote:

On October 12, 1974 - he was first exposed to the mysteries of an Order that carries a powerful legacy. It was in the orm of the ceremony i taught you, Ty. AT THAT PRECISE MOMENT, while the manifestation occurs, I was born. No shit. I got out of the navy, and went to live with my friends in Berkeley, and we got a place,.. which when I started getting into the connections I have out there, I found out was the exact place that Robert Anton Wilson beheld my late teacher perform that ceremony while my mentor watched, at the precise moment I was born half a country away. It happened in the room I would one day live in. By that time I found all this out (no one ever told me, outright), my head was wrapped around the Rashith Ha-Galgalim quite firmly, and when I confronted people about this, they finally admitted it was true, and asked how I found out. I found out because I experienced that whole event in a single dream on a special night.


EVERYTHING is CONNECTED when viewed in the light of Scientific Illuminism.

vertical,
raum

every day, it's a gettin closer...

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 2:06 pm
by raum

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 8:38 pm
by raum
QUOTEAT THAT PRECISE MOMENT, while the manifestation occurs, I was born

BTW: the ceremony was in california, but i was born in lousiana. it happened at the precise time, in different time zones.

felt that needed to be established.

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:12 am
by Pete
But WHY did it happen in California?

What about other people that were born on the same day & same exact time, but different countries?

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 9:31 pm
by Aemeth
Since this was dug up, I now have a q I didn't have b4..

Raum u say u knew no less than 15 ppl who knew the towers would be struck....I think I can speak for the most of common America when I say I thought no one on our side knew about the attacks (or else they woulda stopped em, right).

So obviously, some kinda conspiracy workings are taking place..

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 9:54 pm
by raum
Pete,

QUOTEBut WHY did it happen in California?  

What about other people that were born on the same day & same exact time, but different countries?

not sure the reason is as simple as a WHY, and I am certainly not looking at it that way. The Human choices and interactions provided as much of the stage as some Universal reason WHY.

As far as the other people, *shrug* - maybe its not important to them. to my knowledge this was not intended to be a grand convocation. it was a simple "hypothetical and indirect means of manifestation" of specific essential importance to a specific group, who have their own designs and beliefs. I, without know this, developed these same designs and beliefs (essentially) and my birth (not my conception) coincided with this means. Futhermore, I developed these same ideas and through a different avenue, whihc appears to have NO similarity to the means or tenets of the people involved. it has all the appearances of coincidence, and is saturated with implications that it is anything but unfocused chance.

But the latitude and longitude (which could arguably be arbitrary distinctions) in which i came from the womb approximates a level of significance which is transparent, and its exact location could not be significant outside of those global considerations.

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:04 pm
by raum
QUOTERaum u say u knew no less than 15 ppl who knew the towers would be struck....I think I can speak for the most of common America when I say I thought no one on our side knew about the attacks (or else they woulda stopped em, right).  

So obviously, some kinda conspiracy workings are taking place..

Underlying, yes. Openly conscious, not necessarily.

it is "intentional" that a group of people walking together will approximate a common pace?

Is it a consipracy that a yawn inspires others to do so?

Just look at Fight Club. you will see the towers go down. but what does it mean??

Hell, it might be that the terrorist agenda is completely inspired by cinema. Cue the Hoover communist inquisition.

But fight club was a book, so maybe the Catcher in the Rye is really the mythos behind Sirhan sirhan's madness.

The real issue is IF you want to go to that place where all things are connected, it is very easy, our very nervous system dictates it would be a logical speculation. But what would possess you to make it a place of powerlessness where you are the expendable pawn of a pogrom which barely even has visibility of you, and regards you as an inconvenient trimming which it can dispose of as it feels?



vertical,
raum

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:48 pm
by Pete
I am just wondering if those same practices could have taken place in another geographic location, at that same particular moment in time, either by the same or not the same people.

It's just that I don't understand the significance of the fact that those practices occured in CALIFORNIA. Did it HAVE TO be California for that to happen the way it did & coincide with your birth?


I guess I am branching off into another topic- my odd perception of the North American State of California.....