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Rhyming Words
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 5:55 pm
by AYHJA
So, I was talking to one of our forum members today, and he says in a general convo that there are no words in the English language that rhyme with
month silver orange and purple
Now, I don't feel that is true...I think that words that rhyme work off of vowel sounds...I think that hurtful rhymes with purple (h&rt-f&l and purple is p&r-p&l)...I think month rhymes with hump...Orange and Torrents...Some other examples in our convo...
I think that Cat and Zach rhyme, he says no...
I think that Hay and Sleigh rhyme, and he agrees...
Any thoughts..? It could be just a difference in dialects, but...Ionno, maybe its something to it...
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 6:03 pm
by deepdiver32073
Technically speaking, he's correct. A lot of songwriters and others play loose with rhymes to make their stuff work, but it's not a true rhyme.
Cat - Hat, rhyme
Cat - Zach, not
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 6:41 pm
by AYHJA
Maybe so, but...
Cat is phoenetically kat, and Zach is phoenetically zak, is it not..?
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 6:54 pm
by arkitek777
Juicy J says "burple" a lot...Does that count? That's the only one I can come up with...
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 6:56 pm
by AYHJA
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 6:59 pm
by deepdiver32073
QUOTE("AYHJA")Maybe so, but...
Cat is phoenetically kat, and Zach is phoenetically zak, is it not..?
Yes, that is correct, the vowel sounds are identical, however a rhyme is more than just matching vowel sounds. The ending consonant sounds must match as well. Thus, cat, mat, rat, fat, pat, etc are all rhymes. Zach, whack, tack, rack, jack, etc are all rhymes.
Follow?
It gets a little more complex and cloudy on multisyllable words, more gray area and disagreement over how "exact" one must be.
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 7:05 pm
by AYHJA
So by that definition,
Unit and Unix don't rhyme..?
Damn, this is all I could come up with for a definition of rhyme:
The basic definition of rhyme is two words that sound alike
http://bcs.bedfordstmartins.com/virtual ... e_def.html
Byeond that, all the dictionary says is terminal sounds, ie, the end part of the word...And to be similar in sound...So, any words that pretty much have the same end form and or are similar in sound, rhyme...
Even Better:
http://teenwriting.about.com/library/we ... 20902a.htm
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 7:32 pm
by deepdiver32073
That second entry is one of the better definitions of rhyme that I've seen. That first one was pretty slack for a literary aid.
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 1:34 pm
by arkitek777
Yeah, the second definition is very in-depth...Is it really feasible to count half-rhymes, etc...Either is or ain't, huh? 2 times down to Juicy J.... :king:
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 1:40 pm
by deepdiver32073
"Half-rhymes" are used more in older literary pieces, not so common anymore.