New bin Laden tape?

[Bot]

This new tape, if it is from bin Laden, is rather interesting. He keeps up the tough rhetoric... but also offers a truce. To me, that shows weakness. Bin Laden started this fight on 9/11. Now he wants to put it on hold?

Purported bin Laden tape: 'It's only a question of time'

[raum]

easy to offer a truce when you have no control over what your team is doing.

bin laden is like the little clay dude who tells you to drink sprite. a demographic commercial.

he is not a political leader, and has no power of truce. he is not a leader, an official, and he is smoking crack if he thinks after what he has threatened to do or took credit for in the past, he will get a TRUCE.

he is a financer, conspirator, and a public endorser.

a friggin cheerleader and a checkbook rolled up into one...

he might be eggin the team on, but he ain't callin the plays, or runnin with the ball.

so c'mon bl, lemme see them splits, cause ya team spirit seems to be lackin.

i would wipe my ass with his tape and send it into space, on public tv, before I would offer that spoiled maniac a truce.

vertical,
raum

[raum]

Transcript of the broadcasted tape by BBC:

My message to you is about the war in Iraq and Afghanistan and the way to end it.

I had not intended to speak to you about this issue, because, for us, this issue is already decided: diamonds cut diamonds.

Praise be to God, our conditions are always improving, becoming better, while yours are the opposite.

However, what prompted me to speak are the repeated fallacies of your President Bush in his comment on the outcome of US opinion polls, which indicated that the overwhelming majority of you want the withdrawal of the forces from Iraq, but he objected to this desire and said that the withdrawal of troops would send the wrong message to the enemy.

Bush said: It is better to fight them on their ground than they fighting us on our ground.

In my response to these fallacies, I say: The war in Iraq is raging and operations in Afghanistan are on the rise in our favour, praise be to God.

The Pentagon figures indicate the rise in the number of your dead and wounded, let alone the huge material losses.

To go back to where I started, I say that the results of the poll satisfy sane people and that Bush's objection to them is false.

Reality testifies that the war against America and its allies has not remained confined to Iraq, as he claims.

In fact, Iraq has become a point of attraction and recruitment of qualified resources.

On the other hand, the mujahideen, praise be to God, have managed to breach all the security measures adopted by the unjust nations of the coalition time and again.

The evidence for this are the bombings you have seen in the capitals of the most important European countries of this aggressive coalition.

As for the delay in carrying out similar operations in America, this was not due to the failure to breach your security measures.

Operations are in preparation and you will see them on your own ground once the preparations are finished, God willing.

Based on the above, we see that Bush's argument is false.

However, the argument that he avoided, which is the substance of the results of opinion polls on withdrawing the troops, is that it is better not to fight the Muslims on their land and for them not to fight us on our land.

We do not object to a long-term truce with you on the basis of fair conditions that we respect.

We are a nation to which God has disallowed treachery and lying.

In this truce, both parties will enjoy security and stability and we will build Iraq and Afghanistan which were destroyed by the war.

There is no defect in this solution other than preventing the flow of hundreds of billions to the influential people and war merchants in America, who supported Bush's election campaign with billions of dollars.

[Bot]

You know, I'm watching The Grid again, and while watching, I think, "This can't be the way the terrorists really speak." However, after reading that transcript, apparently that is the way they speak: praise be to god, god willing etc. lol

This transcript furthers my suspicion that al-Qaeda is depleted. They may not be on the brink of destruction, but they're certainly weak. They need time to regroup and reorganize.

[raum]

praise be to god, we have transcended just physical members... every day that Allah has blessed we find our mujahideen ranks swell with blessed members from such wonderful places as beloved narina, where our devoted beaver brethren seek to destroy the tyranny of the white queen who seeks to horde the Turkish delights... even Allah's will is acknowledge by our elven brothers in Middle Earth, who lend their bows to our cause to defeat the orcs that Oil tyrants make in the stygian depths of the Holy land. The logic of our cause is undeniable, if even the devoted heroes in imaginary worlds you admire join us in our holy efforts, so must America acknowledge our cause is just and sensible.

In fact, Allah be praised, i just got a wonderous text message on my cell phone that our brothers at T-Mobile sent to me free of charge. It is from our new brethren in israel, who have all converted to Islam, and are willing to start a study group, to be led by me. And look god has raised the great japanese warship yamamato to provide us with a righteous navy!!!

Diamonds cut diamonds, huh?

this fucker's loopy. Lasers cut diamonds.

[AYHJA]

If I may ask...Do you guys think that we are actually looking for Bin Laden..? Or do you feel that like raum said, that he is a puppett, the smoke and mirror to a more able leader...The decoy so to speak...

[raum]

oh, i don't think there is a leader,..

i think there is a couple ol dogs barkin at a couple of young bucks, as my papaw used to say.

what do they need a REAL HUMAN leader for, when they believe they can do no wrong in this?

but I think they is a couple of egos, and other people who got in in their head the wanna be in on the second coming.

and a few probably think they are *that* dude, or they know him.

including Mr. Iran himself.

[Bot]

I'd say I'd have to agree with raum in that OBL is sort of the al-Qaeda spokesperson. I think there is some sort of committee, council, cabinet etc, though. You have to have someone organizing the hits, funding the hits etc.

I think capturing OBL would be a nice blow, though, mediawise anyway. The terrorist attacks aren't going to stop with him behind bars. You have to go after the guys on the street. But catching OBL would show the American public that the U.S. government is doing something, and maybe that'd shut the asshat whiners up.

[jdog]

Yeah, I hope he likes being a cave dweller that eats rats and insects to stay alive. What a coward to talk about jihad and then hide like a mole. If I ever saw him in person I'd put a steak knife into each of his eyes.

[raum]

the broad address, Chirac warned unspecified "leaders of states that would use terrorist means against us" that they could face "a firm and fitting response."
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Man, when FRANCE calls you on your shit, you know you ain't got dick when it comes to fucking wit people... and you know if you aint got got dick, you just a pus..

nevermind, the kids still up.