Best Player in College Basketball?
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Lost Ghost
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If he leads them to a national championship...like all could assume Reddick will....then he can be in the mix....
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RIMFIRE
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QUOTEcan anyone even name me 3 teams in the WAC conferance without looking them up
UTEP
New Mexico State
Hawaii
Fresno State
BYU
...just to name a few.
UTEP
New Mexico State
Hawaii
Fresno State
BYU
...just to name a few.
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Lost Ghost
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....thanks...
Can you now name any 2 players on all of those teams?....Or their star player....or perhaps if any of them are ranked?
without looking them up.....
Can you now name any 2 players on all of those teams?....Or their star player....or perhaps if any of them are ranked?
without looking them up.....
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AYHJA
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Oh brother...
QUOTE(Lost Ghost)He plays against subpar compeition...
Not again man...How...Many times do we have to go over this..? Please...Cut it out...The subpar competition will NEVER hold water...
QUOTE(Lost Ghost)Reddick is streaky? The guy who hit like 70 straight freethrows as a freshmen is streaky?
Umm...Yeah..? And you use free throws to contend it...Damn, I thought you was a bastekball guru..? /:D" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt=":D" /> Any guru should know that free throws and game time are two different things...Good though he may be, he stunk it up in the tournament last year = streaky...You don't have to take my word for it though, you can probably find no less than 3 different generally well accepted opinions that this is the case...Flawless mechanics, less than flawless shot selection...
QUOTE(Lost Ghost)by not "naturally atheletic" you mean hes not.......black?
Quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever read on the entire forum...I hope that wasn't serious...
QUOTE(Lost Ghost)He plays against subpar compeition...
Not again man...How...Many times do we have to go over this..? Please...Cut it out...The subpar competition will NEVER hold water...
QUOTE(Lost Ghost)Reddick is streaky? The guy who hit like 70 straight freethrows as a freshmen is streaky?
Umm...Yeah..? And you use free throws to contend it...Damn, I thought you was a bastekball guru..? /:D" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt=":D" /> Any guru should know that free throws and game time are two different things...Good though he may be, he stunk it up in the tournament last year = streaky...You don't have to take my word for it though, you can probably find no less than 3 different generally well accepted opinions that this is the case...Flawless mechanics, less than flawless shot selection...
QUOTE(Lost Ghost)by not "naturally atheletic" you mean hes not.......black?
Quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever read on the entire forum...I hope that wasn't serious...
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RIMFIRE
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QUOTECan you now name any 2 players on all of those teams?....Or their star player....or perhaps if any of them are ranked?
Jesus man.....I keep giving you what you want, but you NEVER give back.....
Jesus man.....I keep giving you what you want, but you NEVER give back.....
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Melo
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Reddick to me is just an awesome pure spot up shooter. He doesn't have any handle and his driving capabilities are sub-par at best....
maybe i'm just hatin cause i don't like Duke.... :twisted:
maybe i'm just hatin cause i don't like Duke.... :twisted:
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Lost Ghost
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Yeah...you are just hating......but at least you admit it.....does anyone actually WATCH the Duke games? Reddick isn't just a spot up shooter anymore..... Tell Kobe about shot-selection....if you make it...who cares how you shoot it?
and yes...that can be construed from what you said......how is Reddick not an athelete...because he doesnt run and dunk all over the place.....because he's a shooter? How...if you consider baseball players atheletes....does that make Reddick not an athelete...
I even said he's improved his driving and creating his own shot from last year ....but you, who admittingly said you havent watched a game of college basketball....instead of believing me who's watched the games...you base waht you say on something you watched from last year....
Okay Rim.....the fact of the matter is...the WAC is piss poor as far as basketball goes...they have no ranked teams....so just because you can name a few teams from the conferance has nothing to do with wehther or not they're any good...
Football is different than basketball...Compeition DEFINITELY has something to do with how good you are...... Any idea how many highschoolers dropped over 70 points ?? PLENTY.....how many NBA players do it?....its what seperates the good from the great.... Reddick is dropping 25+ daily on the best players in college basketball......Morrison is doing it over subpar competition.....does that mean that he isn't good? No...... He's a great player....but compeition is a huge factor in determining just how good someone is...
You're telling me if Morrison drops 35 a game on all his WAC oppentents....then come tourney times doesn't score over 15 in a losing effort...and you'll still consider him as good as Reddick who drops 25+ on everyone...and leads his team to the best record in College Basketball right now.
A decisive factor is always "the best player on the best team in the league"...Why do you think Tim Duncan got some MVP's? and T-MAC really don't get that much credit...... You're on the best team in college basketball putting up very comparable numbers to a guy who plays in a shitty conferance.... you have the advantadge....theres no doubt about it...
and yes...that can be construed from what you said......how is Reddick not an athelete...because he doesnt run and dunk all over the place.....because he's a shooter? How...if you consider baseball players atheletes....does that make Reddick not an athelete...
I even said he's improved his driving and creating his own shot from last year ....but you, who admittingly said you havent watched a game of college basketball....instead of believing me who's watched the games...you base waht you say on something you watched from last year....
Okay Rim.....the fact of the matter is...the WAC is piss poor as far as basketball goes...they have no ranked teams....so just because you can name a few teams from the conferance has nothing to do with wehther or not they're any good...
Football is different than basketball...Compeition DEFINITELY has something to do with how good you are...... Any idea how many highschoolers dropped over 70 points ?? PLENTY.....how many NBA players do it?....its what seperates the good from the great.... Reddick is dropping 25+ daily on the best players in college basketball......Morrison is doing it over subpar competition.....does that mean that he isn't good? No...... He's a great player....but compeition is a huge factor in determining just how good someone is...
You're telling me if Morrison drops 35 a game on all his WAC oppentents....then come tourney times doesn't score over 15 in a losing effort...and you'll still consider him as good as Reddick who drops 25+ on everyone...and leads his team to the best record in College Basketball right now.
A decisive factor is always "the best player on the best team in the league"...Why do you think Tim Duncan got some MVP's? and T-MAC really don't get that much credit...... You're on the best team in college basketball putting up very comparable numbers to a guy who plays in a shitty conferance.... you have the advantadge....theres no doubt about it...
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AYHJA
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An athlete and being athletic isn't even the same thing Homez...
And almost have nothing to do with race in the context that I mentioned it...You go off on so many tangents man...The analogies...Goodness...They don't work for me...If we are talking college basketball, what's wrong with keeping it college..?
And then you talk like I don't know kids that lit it up in big time leagues and conferences...And got to the NBA and were average at best...Or worse...C'mon man, you must see this...Lawrence Moten from Syracuse was night in, night out, 21 ppg...For a career...Givin' it to dudes just like Rip Hamilton...And couldn't make it in the NBA...Trying to establish Reddick as the real deal cause he in the ACC...Like I don't know who Trajan Langdon is...................ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... You killin' me...
And almost have nothing to do with race in the context that I mentioned it...You go off on so many tangents man...The analogies...Goodness...They don't work for me...If we are talking college basketball, what's wrong with keeping it college..?
And then you talk like I don't know kids that lit it up in big time leagues and conferences...And got to the NBA and were average at best...Or worse...C'mon man, you must see this...Lawrence Moten from Syracuse was night in, night out, 21 ppg...For a career...Givin' it to dudes just like Rip Hamilton...And couldn't make it in the NBA...Trying to establish Reddick as the real deal cause he in the ACC...Like I don't know who Trajan Langdon is...................ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... You killin' me...
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Lost Ghost
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Damn.....Tellin' me I'm STUPID for doubting Bush because he had great numbers.....but now telling me that I can't say Reddick is going to be good because I like his numbers?
Come on now man.....
Theres plenty of busts who were great in college football who didnt make it in the NFL....but I wasn't allowed to use that as an excuse...but now you're telling me Reddick isn't a lock because there are busts in the NBA?
Where's the consistency?
Come on now man.....
Theres plenty of busts who were great in college football who didnt make it in the NFL....but I wasn't allowed to use that as an excuse...but now you're telling me Reddick isn't a lock because there are busts in the NBA?
Where's the consistency?
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AYHJA
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QUOTE(AYHJA)If we are talking college basketball, what's wrong with keeping it college..?
Right away:
QUOTE(Lost Ghost)Theres plenty of busts who were great in college football who didnt make it in the NFL....
It's not the same fucking sport Homez, the cross reference sport shit doesn't work, and the only way it would work, is if everyone that was good @ football was good @ basketball...Fuck man....We not even discussing statistics...This was a discussion based on fundamentals...Tendencies...And you're consistently trying to prove your point by arguments we made in other sports...And various different levels...And going off on more and more tangents...
NOBODY said he would be an NBA bust...
NOBODY even said anything about statistics...
QUOTE(Lost Ghost)but now you're telling me Reddick isn't a lock because there are busts in the NBA?
Who said that..? You are arguing it, quote the person in this thread that said that, or even something remotely to it...
You're the one that came out and said Reddick was super nice like that, what's up with you rolling the burden of proof this way..?
You're impossible to talk to man, truly...And you don't even see it, I guess the rest of us are just making this shit up, and ganging up on you...
We talk college football, you make your point using college basketball...
We talk college basketball, you make your point using college football...
IM-FUCKING-POSSIBLE...
Right away:
QUOTE(Lost Ghost)Theres plenty of busts who were great in college football who didnt make it in the NFL....
It's not the same fucking sport Homez, the cross reference sport shit doesn't work, and the only way it would work, is if everyone that was good @ football was good @ basketball...Fuck man....We not even discussing statistics...This was a discussion based on fundamentals...Tendencies...And you're consistently trying to prove your point by arguments we made in other sports...And various different levels...And going off on more and more tangents...
NOBODY said he would be an NBA bust...
NOBODY even said anything about statistics...
QUOTE(Lost Ghost)but now you're telling me Reddick isn't a lock because there are busts in the NBA?
Who said that..? You are arguing it, quote the person in this thread that said that, or even something remotely to it...
You're the one that came out and said Reddick was super nice like that, what's up with you rolling the burden of proof this way..?
You're impossible to talk to man, truly...And you don't even see it, I guess the rest of us are just making this shit up, and ganging up on you...
We talk college football, you make your point using college basketball...
We talk college basketball, you make your point using college football...
IM-FUCKING-POSSIBLE...
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