So, a woman has the right to choose, and can not be forced or coerced by legislation or incentive to have a child, or abort a fetus in a perfect "pro-choice." The window for this should be limited to the terms that it can be safely done, and not have adverse effects on the woman.
NOW, a Men's right group is arguing that if indeed both a male and female are responsible for the creation of a child, and the woman is absolved of all social and financial responsibility of motherhood for no other reason more severe than her preoccuation or perogative, then does it not also stand to reason that a male should also be able to absolve himself by right of perogative or preoccupation of the social and financial repsonsiblity commonly associated with the role of Fatherhood? Why should he be coerced into a situation where a woman would be able to have a child come into the world he does not want, and why should he be expected to provide any social or financial responsibility to the woman and/or child he does not want, and would abort if he had the exclusively female right of decision?
Philosophically, the ruling they pursue is the same term of choice a woman should be extended (on a timely basis, not forced by coersion or incentive) to notify the pregnant woman that he will or will not enter into a role of social or financial responsibility for the fetus, pregnant woman, mother, or child. A woman's choice to be a mother can not be extended to interfere with a man's choice to be a father, or there is ONLY incentive for a woman to "trap" men into the role of Father.
The woman still has the right to the child's existence, but not the right to entrap the father with an unwanted child.
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On March 9, 2006 The National Center For Men will file suit in a United States district court in Michigan on behalf of a man's right to make reproductive choice, to decline fatherhood in the event of an unintended pregnancy. We will call our lawsuit Roe vs. Wade for Men. TM
More than three decades ago Roe vs. Wade gave women control of their reproductive lives but nothing in the law changed for men. Women can now have sexual intimacy without sacrificing reproductive choice. Women now have the freedom and security to enjoy lovemaking without the fear of forced procreation. Women now have control of their lives after an unplanned conception. But men are routinely forced to give up control, forced to be financially responsible for choices only women are permitted to make, forced to relinquish reproductive choice as the price of intimacy.
full text, http://www.nationalcenterformen.org/page7.shtml
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Men's Group Seeks Reproductive Rights For Both Genders
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Interesting. This is a nice little twist. I'm very interested in the outcome of this.
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As am I, I've never really thought about it that way, but that makes a shitload of sense...Lots of guys have gotten burned like that man, some chick has bad feelings all of a sudden about abortions, and he's stuck w/a kid...Or, a chick trying to fuck up a household w/an outside child...
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true stories (not personal):
- Couple married. Woman allergic to laytex. Refuses to use condom. Using spremicidal foam. Woman has unwanted pregnancy, that man was willing to try for. Woman tried to get chemical abortion against man's will to be a father. Abortion failed. Doc says kid will have defects. Woman refuses to get full abortion. Man and woman split. Man left supporting woman and child he does not want, who can never learn to be self-reliant.
- Woman told man "I don't want baby either." woman allegedly broke condom. man loses financial capacity to support woman and child that forgot to tell him she already had a baby daddy in jail (baby stayin with grandmother).
- Man told "I can't get pregnant. i am on the pill." Man goes with woman to get the pill. Woman not taking the pill, due to health concerns. Woman gets free ride.
- 16 year old boy gets girlfriend pregnant. He doesn't want to be a father. finds out girl was planning this all along so he would join military, like he had been planning since he was a small child, and she gets the free ride.
- 14 year old boy gets girl pregnant. She said she was on pill. Boy loses lucrative medical school scholarship when they find out he has unwanted baby, and never goes to college. He ends working as a garbage man, and raising chickens on the side to pay for child support.
- Man told medically he can't have children. woman in long term relationship gets pregnant. Man elated. Man wants baby, woman doesn't. Woman tells him she is going to get a makeover. comes back, and reports she had abortion. Man and woman split. Man goes on to get married, and adopts a child. Woman comes back with child. SHE LIED about abortion. Was afraid to "get serious in relationship." Current wife leaves him, and he supports ex-wife, adopted child, ex-girlfriend, and child he believed he as aborted. Man commits suicide when threatened with criminal negligence for failing to support, when he was living on friend's couch after losing house, job, and family.
I am not saying I would do it without such severe circumstances, but damn if women should have the exclusive right to reporductive choice, and be able to mess up a man's life at the drop of a hat.
"win a superbowl and drive off in a hyundai", indeed!
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- Couple married. Woman allergic to laytex. Refuses to use condom. Using spremicidal foam. Woman has unwanted pregnancy, that man was willing to try for. Woman tried to get chemical abortion against man's will to be a father. Abortion failed. Doc says kid will have defects. Woman refuses to get full abortion. Man and woman split. Man left supporting woman and child he does not want, who can never learn to be self-reliant.
- Woman told man "I don't want baby either." woman allegedly broke condom. man loses financial capacity to support woman and child that forgot to tell him she already had a baby daddy in jail (baby stayin with grandmother).
- Man told "I can't get pregnant. i am on the pill." Man goes with woman to get the pill. Woman not taking the pill, due to health concerns. Woman gets free ride.
- 16 year old boy gets girlfriend pregnant. He doesn't want to be a father. finds out girl was planning this all along so he would join military, like he had been planning since he was a small child, and she gets the free ride.
- 14 year old boy gets girl pregnant. She said she was on pill. Boy loses lucrative medical school scholarship when they find out he has unwanted baby, and never goes to college. He ends working as a garbage man, and raising chickens on the side to pay for child support.
- Man told medically he can't have children. woman in long term relationship gets pregnant. Man elated. Man wants baby, woman doesn't. Woman tells him she is going to get a makeover. comes back, and reports she had abortion. Man and woman split. Man goes on to get married, and adopts a child. Woman comes back with child. SHE LIED about abortion. Was afraid to "get serious in relationship." Current wife leaves him, and he supports ex-wife, adopted child, ex-girlfriend, and child he believed he as aborted. Man commits suicide when threatened with criminal negligence for failing to support, when he was living on friend's couch after losing house, job, and family.
I am not saying I would do it without such severe circumstances, but damn if women should have the exclusive right to reporductive choice, and be able to mess up a man's life at the drop of a hat.
"win a superbowl and drive off in a hyundai", indeed!
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