Senate blocks same-sex marriage ban
I've said it so many times before... The U.S. is Conservative. Canada is Liberal. lol
Gay Marriage blocked in the Senate
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If you give Gays what they want, where do we stop? What about Morman's? What about their right for multipule marriages? It's 'Pandora's Box' if you ask me. People need to start looking at the big picture and acknowledge that there is a possibility of a huge backlash for allowing same sex marriages. Will I be allowed to marry my cat or my dog, come on.
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Are you fucking serious... marrying cats and dogs... that's your best argument? Give me a break. :roll:
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It was a rhetorical question.
Anyway's, your still wet behind the ears, it will be a few years before your eyes widen and see the world for what it is.
Anyway's, your still wet behind the ears, it will be a few years before your eyes widen and see the world for what it is.
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Now, don't get me wrong, I am all for constitutional amendments, less my ass wish to return to slavery...
But I myself think that this is ridiculous, this same sex marriage thing, and unnecessary...Why can't two people that love each other, gay or not, simply choose to be together...Being legally married validates nothing...My mothers old beautician was gay, her and her girlfriend got married and didn't give a shit about a law...If you want to have a same sex wedding, go right the fuck ahead..! There is not luxury that marriage has that can't be achieved by easier means...I too think that this shit is overboard, and a gateway for trouble...
The idea of marriage is ridiculous to me, and I'm married...You can buy a house, a car, leave all your shit to your "spouse" and everything...Without being married...I just want to read the argument from the gay POV, and maybe make sense of it for me, I really just think that its energy wasted...
But I myself think that this is ridiculous, this same sex marriage thing, and unnecessary...Why can't two people that love each other, gay or not, simply choose to be together...Being legally married validates nothing...My mothers old beautician was gay, her and her girlfriend got married and didn't give a shit about a law...If you want to have a same sex wedding, go right the fuck ahead..! There is not luxury that marriage has that can't be achieved by easier means...I too think that this shit is overboard, and a gateway for trouble...
The idea of marriage is ridiculous to me, and I'm married...You can buy a house, a car, leave all your shit to your "spouse" and everything...Without being married...I just want to read the argument from the gay POV, and maybe make sense of it for me, I really just think that its energy wasted...
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m...married... yes... 'course...
AH! Sorry! We're talking about gay marriage... My mind was flying /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":P" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />
Now now. Gay marriage... What a concept. Well, I'm conservative myself butt(SHAKIRAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!) I'll tell you this:
Homosexuals want to get married BECAUSE OF THE BENEFITS of a marriage. And no, I don't mean the "honey I'm home" aspect of marriage. I'm more referring to the economical aspect and the other benefits married couples enjoy. I don't know how it is in the U.S. of A. butt(SHAKIRAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!) I can tell you about Greece, for instance, where married couples enjoy some monetary bonuses when they work in the public sector and such. I bet there are similar laws and benefits in every country.
There you have the basic reason. For the rest, well, I can tell you that "let them have it". What do you care if THEY get married ? It's their house, their A.S.S. so they can do all they want.
For me the real problem starts with adoptions. There is NO DAMN WAY IN THIS UNIVERSE that you can convince me that a homosexual couple can raise a kid in a "proper" way...
Oh, and just ass(SHAKIRAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!) a reminder: In holland, pederasts want to found a party that will legalize adult to minor sex, animal sex AND, they want to lower the "legal sex age" to 12. What do you think of that ?
O tempora o mores.
We're fucked /:D" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt=":D" /> We just don't know it yet /:D" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt=":D" />
AH! Sorry! We're talking about gay marriage... My mind was flying /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":P" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />
Now now. Gay marriage... What a concept. Well, I'm conservative myself butt(SHAKIRAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!) I'll tell you this:
Homosexuals want to get married BECAUSE OF THE BENEFITS of a marriage. And no, I don't mean the "honey I'm home" aspect of marriage. I'm more referring to the economical aspect and the other benefits married couples enjoy. I don't know how it is in the U.S. of A. butt(SHAKIRAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!) I can tell you about Greece, for instance, where married couples enjoy some monetary bonuses when they work in the public sector and such. I bet there are similar laws and benefits in every country.
There you have the basic reason. For the rest, well, I can tell you that "let them have it". What do you care if THEY get married ? It's their house, their A.S.S. so they can do all they want.
For me the real problem starts with adoptions. There is NO DAMN WAY IN THIS UNIVERSE that you can convince me that a homosexual couple can raise a kid in a "proper" way...
Oh, and just ass(SHAKIRAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!) a reminder: In holland, pederasts want to found a party that will legalize adult to minor sex, animal sex AND, they want to lower the "legal sex age" to 12. What do you think of that ?
O tempora o mores.
We're fucked /:D" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt=":D" /> We just don't know it yet /:D" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt=":D" />
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not that simple... nothing ever is.
I know someone who is not gay and neither is *his* boyfriend. they would love to be legally married.
it was one of those cases where the infant is born either/or, and due to parents, their child ended ended up a boy. one of those fairly common kind of things that used to occur and was never thought of again, until the child seemed "odd."
anyways, my acquaintance has always thought and had feelings more like a woman, but was surgically determined as an infant to be a male. She would have preferred to have been surgically made a female and has better physiology for a male, if a choice had to be made. Even in male clothing, Zie appears as a woman wearing men's clothing.
but due to the emotional and physical scarring, Zie hates the idea of surgery or medicine in general. Zie is forced by fear and pain to be a male, when Zie really honestly could have been a woman.
anyways, he (who really was a he/she) has a lover who is understanding of this, and both of these two appear to be males, though anyone who knows Zie would know better than to say they are gay.
Biologically speaking, Zie has some elements of female chromosomes. They are for all purposes, forbidden to marry due to her male anatomy.
their sexual identity is not as a gay couple, and they really aren't... and Zie could be a very attractive woman...
yet they can not legally marry.
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Thus Zie is a I-9 contract professional "consultant" for Zie's male partner, and they through this relationship have far more benefits than a financial ease of burden provided by a legal marriage. but they are actually Christian, and often do not get the understanding from their community.
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There should be a equivalent established life term relationship protecting the rights of all legal adults (with provision for all legal recourse, including divorce and pre-nuptial agreement) for all models of consensual relationships for those who live alternative to a monogamous heterosexual existence between conscious consensual adult lifestyles.
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It should not be "marriage" but rather "as marriage is for those who want or require something other than marriage."
it was one of those cases where the infant is born either/or, and due to parents, their child ended ended up a boy. one of those fairly common kind of things that used to occur and was never thought of again, until the child seemed "odd."
anyways, my acquaintance has always thought and had feelings more like a woman, but was surgically determined as an infant to be a male. She would have preferred to have been surgically made a female and has better physiology for a male, if a choice had to be made. Even in male clothing, Zie appears as a woman wearing men's clothing.
but due to the emotional and physical scarring, Zie hates the idea of surgery or medicine in general. Zie is forced by fear and pain to be a male, when Zie really honestly could have been a woman.
anyways, he (who really was a he/she) has a lover who is understanding of this, and both of these two appear to be males, though anyone who knows Zie would know better than to say they are gay.
Biologically speaking, Zie has some elements of female chromosomes. They are for all purposes, forbidden to marry due to her male anatomy.
their sexual identity is not as a gay couple, and they really aren't... and Zie could be a very attractive woman...
yet they can not legally marry.
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Thus Zie is a I-9 contract professional "consultant" for Zie's male partner, and they through this relationship have far more benefits than a financial ease of burden provided by a legal marriage. but they are actually Christian, and often do not get the understanding from their community.
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There should be a equivalent established life term relationship protecting the rights of all legal adults (with provision for all legal recourse, including divorce and pre-nuptial agreement) for all models of consensual relationships for those who live alternative to a monogamous heterosexual existence between conscious consensual adult lifestyles.
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It should not be "marriage" but rather "as marriage is for those who want or require something other than marriage."
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Dude, that's like one in a gazillion!
That's a case that demands very special attention and doesn't apply in the generic "homosexuality" issue!
That's a case that demands very special attention and doesn't apply in the generic "homosexuality" issue!
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granted, its a one in a billion.
but here is the issue. basically, Zie is a woman, with a birth defect that caused her body to produce some effects that anatomically occurs in men. she was born with some female physiology that males simply do not have. So why can't Zie marry, except for the fact that the parents that brought Zie into this world made a judgement call to have the surgery to "physically alter *her* body to make it more distinctly male, based on this birth defect? *Her* parents noticed their mistake some 2 decades ago, but she is stuck with those implications. Is marriage forbidden of those with birth defects, or just specific ones? There are far more considerations than the ones that are being considered.
...though the real point I was making was if a couple that could not marry wanted the benefits of marriage, they are easily achieved.
but here is the issue. basically, Zie is a woman, with a birth defect that caused her body to produce some effects that anatomically occurs in men. she was born with some female physiology that males simply do not have. So why can't Zie marry, except for the fact that the parents that brought Zie into this world made a judgement call to have the surgery to "physically alter *her* body to make it more distinctly male, based on this birth defect? *Her* parents noticed their mistake some 2 decades ago, but she is stuck with those implications. Is marriage forbidden of those with birth defects, or just specific ones? There are far more considerations than the ones that are being considered.
...though the real point I was making was if a couple that could not marry wanted the benefits of marriage, they are easily achieved.
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QUOTE(Buffmaster)It was a rhetorical question.
Anyway's, your still wet behind the ears, it will be a few years before your eyes widen and see the world for what it is.
That right? :|
BlindG got one part of it... the benefits of marriage. Another part is equality. Conservatives have tried to push the idea of "civil unions," but same-sex couples have rejected it because it's not the same, it's not equal.
Anyway's, your still wet behind the ears, it will be a few years before your eyes widen and see the world for what it is.
That right? :|
BlindG got one part of it... the benefits of marriage. Another part is equality. Conservatives have tried to push the idea of "civil unions," but same-sex couples have rejected it because it's not the same, it's not equal.
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