I've never played a round of golf myself. I like going to the driving range on post and seeing how many cars/runners I can hit when I lob the balls over the netting. They tend to frown on that, but I tell them "Hey bro, I paid for a bucket of balls and said I was going to the driving range. I NEVER said in which direction I was going to be hitting them. You should have asked."
Tiger is great at his game just as Bobby Fisher was great at chess, but I don't like him being talked about in the same sentence as MJ, Walter Payton, Babe Ruth, etc.
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And why is that?
Game or Sport....Tiger dominates his better than anyone else did theirs.....he deserves all the respect and acclaim he gets...even if it is "Best athlete of all time"...because all that means to me is..."what he did in his respective sport was better than that of anyone else in their respective sport"...and that is the case.
Game or Sport....Tiger dominates his better than anyone else did theirs.....he deserves all the respect and acclaim he gets...even if it is "Best athlete of all time"...because all that means to me is..."what he did in his respective sport was better than that of anyone else in their respective sport"...and that is the case.
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Tiger will be talked to in the same sentence as MJ, Babe Ruth, Walter Payton, etc in a discussions in the best in their sports. Athlete? Maybe not, but the best in their game is where he belongs.
I saw that shot on the roof...that was an amazing shot. I can't believe he pulled a bogey out of it
I saw that shot on the roof...that was an amazing shot. I can't believe he pulled a bogey out of it
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Why have I never played a round? Becuase nobody I know plays. I would like to learn, but I'm not paying someone to teach me. I can hit it long, but no clue where that bad boy is going. Tiger seems to have the same problem since he fired his caddy.
How about that shot onto the roof yesterday... GREAT SHOT T.W.
How about that shot onto the roof yesterday... GREAT SHOT T.W.
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No...the question I asked was directly related to what I said after it...
Why do you feel this way
Tiger is great at his game just as Bobby Fisher was great at chess, but I don't like him being talked about in the same sentence as MJ, Walter Payton, Babe Ruth, etc.
Why do you feel this way
Tiger is great at his game just as Bobby Fisher was great at chess, but I don't like him being talked about in the same sentence as MJ, Walter Payton, Babe Ruth, etc.
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Golf is not a sport... it is an activity... a game... a leisure event.
An athlete has to have some set pf physical skills that the average person does not posses. Anyone can gold... short, tall, fat, skinny, young, old... anyone. When a damn 15 year old Ty Triton or Michelle Wie can hang with, and even beat alot of, the adults in the pro-game, then you cannot argue that it is a sport. Kids play games, adults play professional sports.
Golf is a game that you can ride a cart in or carry the clubs, but that†™‚¢‚¢¢¢¬…¡‚¬‚¢¢¢¬…¾
‚¢s about as much exercise as you get. Swinging a club requires no physical prowess; just learn how to swing it. Picking the club is a matter of knowing the distance and angle of the shot. No different than a game of Chess... risk/reward.
Now, if they had the ball on a Pendulum and the golfer had to swing at a moving target while the other golfers tried to knock the ball down in mid air... now THAT would be a sport. But, a stationary ball then nobody can touch and no noise can be made??? That†™‚¢‚¢¢¢¬…¡‚¬‚¢¢¢¬…¾
‚¢s a game of concentration and skill... no different than Chess.
An athlete has to have some set pf physical skills that the average person does not posses. Anyone can gold... short, tall, fat, skinny, young, old... anyone. When a damn 15 year old Ty Triton or Michelle Wie can hang with, and even beat alot of, the adults in the pro-game, then you cannot argue that it is a sport. Kids play games, adults play professional sports.
Golf is a game that you can ride a cart in or carry the clubs, but that†™‚¢‚¢¢¢¬…¡‚¬‚¢¢¢¬…¾
‚¢s about as much exercise as you get. Swinging a club requires no physical prowess; just learn how to swing it. Picking the club is a matter of knowing the distance and angle of the shot. No different than a game of Chess... risk/reward.
Now, if they had the ball on a Pendulum and the golfer had to swing at a moving target while the other golfers tried to knock the ball down in mid air... now THAT would be a sport. But, a stationary ball then nobody can touch and no noise can be made??? That†™‚¢‚¢¢¢¬…¡‚¬‚¢¢¢¬…¾
‚¢s a game of concentration and skill... no different than Chess.
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Tiger wins fourth in row, ties Nelson atop career list
AKRON, Ohio -- For three straight holes in a playoff, Tiger Woods could only stand to the side of the green and watch someone else control his fate Sunday at the Bridgestone Invitational.
Given a chance to win, he wasn't about to waste it.
Career PGA Tour wins leaders
Rank Player Wins
1 Sam Snead 82
2 Jack Nicklaus 73
3 Ben Hogan 64
4 Arnold Palmer 62
T-5 Tiger Woods 52
T-5 Byron Nelson 52
7 Billy Casper 51
8 Walter Hagen 44
9 Cary Middlecoff 40
T-10 Gene Sarazen 39
T-10 Tom Watson 39
Woods hit an 8-iron through a driving rain into 8 feet on the fourth extra hole, then made the birdie putt to outlast Stewart Cink at Firestone South for his fourth consecutive victory.
It came on the 10th anniversary of his turning pro, and it gave Woods his 52nd career victory to match Byron Nelson for fifth all time.
"Just end this thing now," Woods said he told himself on the birdie putt at No. 17. "If I make mine, it's over."
And it was, but not before a roller-coaster round that capped off a strange week.
Woods ended his round Friday by hitting a 9-iron over the green, onto the clubhouse roof and down the other side. He followed that by making four straight bogeys Saturday, his longest such streak in nearly 10 years.
Under darkening clouds in the final round, he went from a two-shot deficit to a three-shot lead in a span of four holes, then lost a three-shot lead over the final three holes to slip into a playoff.
"I was very lucky to even be in the playoff," Woods said.
The result was familiar, especially at this event. Woods now has won five times at Firestone, the most of any golf course on the PGA Tour. He has won four times each at Augusta National and Torrey Pines.
His latest winning streak required more than a little luck. Woods has won his last four starts, his longest winning streak since he won six in a row at the end of the 1999 season and the beginning of 2000.
That was Woods at his peak, and he might be heading there again. He doesn't always win easily, but he finds a way.
"You don't know how many chances you're going to have to beat Tiger in a playoff in your career," Cink said.
Leaderboard
1. Woods (-10)*
2. Cink (-10)
3. Furyk (-9)
T-4. Love III (-7)
T-4. Cabrera (-7)
T-4. Casey (-7)
T-4. Glover (-7)
* -- won on fourth playoff hole
†™‚¢‚¢¢¢¬…¡‚¬¢‚¬Å¡‚¢ Complete scores
Cink, who missed an 8-foot par putt that would have won on the third playoff hole, hit into the bunker and blasted out to 6 feet on the 17th. Before he could save par, he wound up shaking hands with Woods and watching him collect another World Golf Championship.
"I didn't convert, and he did," Cink said. "That's why he has the trophy."
And to think it was 10 years ago Sunday -- Aug. 27, 1996 -- that he introduced himself to the PGA Tour by saying, "Hello, world."
These days, he is saying "goodbye" to the competition.
A week ago, he captured the PGA Championship for his 12th career major, trailing only the 18 won by Jack Nicklaus. He now has 52 victories, and only Arnold Palmer (62), Ben Hogan (64), Nicklaus (73) and Sam Snead (82) have more.
Even so, Woods said he is only worried about himself.
"It's always yourself," he said. "You're always trying to better what you've done in the past -- always. Hopefully, that's good enough to beat the rest of the guys."
Cink was looking for a peculiar repeat.
Two years ago, he validated Hal Sutton's decision to make him a captain's pick for the Ryder Cup by winning at Firestone. Tom Lehman picked him on Monday, and Cink nearly delivered his first victory in two years.
"There were a lot of highs and lows today," Cink said. "Unfortunately, I finished on a low."
Cink had a shot to win on the first three playoff holes -- a 20-foot chip that grazed the lip at No. 18, an 18-foot putt that missed on the high side at No. 17, and an 8-foot par putt on the 18th again that missed to the right.
Woods was in trouble most of the time. On the first extra hole, he pulled his approach long and left into the rough, but pitched beautifully to 5 feet and escaped with par. The second time playing the 18th in the playoff, Woods found a greenside bunker 40 feet from the flag, blasted out to 8 feet and left it inches short.
Victory seemed inevitable for Woods, as it often does at Firestone, when he turned a two-shot deficit at the turn into a three-shot lead with his 20-foot birdie on the 13th. No one else was making birdies, and Woods wasn't making mistakes.
That changed on the 652-yard 16th hole, when Woods hit into the trees down the right side and had to pitch out to the fairway, leaving himself some 230 yards to the flag. He went over the green, chipped to 4 feet and missed the par putt.
Cink, who started the final round with a one-shot lead, holed a 15-foot birdie on the 16th hole, then made a 20-foot birdie putt on the 17th hole to tie Woods atop the leaderboard.
Woods (68) and Cink (69) each had to make a testy 3-footer for par on the 18th hole in regulation -- Woods after leaving his 20-foot putt from the fringe short, Cink after lagging from 90 feet at the front of the green.
Jim Furyk closed with a 68 to finish one shot behind, making a 10-foot par save on the 18th to give himself a chance. Paul Casey of England, among four players atop the leaderboard at one point in the final round, stumbled on the back nine and shot 71. He tied for fourth along with Angel Cabrera (65), Lucas Glover (69) and Davis Love III (71).
Woods, Cink and Furyk headed to the Cleveland airport to join the rest of their U.S. Ryder Cup team for a charter flight to Ireland, where they plan to spend the next two days practicing at The K Club.
Woods and Phil Mickelson, the top two players in the world, rearranged their schedule to make the trip. Asked if that sent a strong message to their 10 teammates, Lehman replied, "It sends a strong message to the other team."
When the Americans return on Wednesday, Woods will go for a fifth straight victory when he plays the Deutsche Bank Championship outside Boston. He already has won six of his 13 starts on the PGA Tour this year.
Copyright 2006 by The Associated Press
Given a chance to win, he wasn't about to waste it.
Career PGA Tour wins leaders
Rank Player Wins
1 Sam Snead 82
2 Jack Nicklaus 73
3 Ben Hogan 64
4 Arnold Palmer 62
T-5 Tiger Woods 52
T-5 Byron Nelson 52
7 Billy Casper 51
8 Walter Hagen 44
9 Cary Middlecoff 40
T-10 Gene Sarazen 39
T-10 Tom Watson 39
Woods hit an 8-iron through a driving rain into 8 feet on the fourth extra hole, then made the birdie putt to outlast Stewart Cink at Firestone South for his fourth consecutive victory.
It came on the 10th anniversary of his turning pro, and it gave Woods his 52nd career victory to match Byron Nelson for fifth all time.
"Just end this thing now," Woods said he told himself on the birdie putt at No. 17. "If I make mine, it's over."
And it was, but not before a roller-coaster round that capped off a strange week.
Woods ended his round Friday by hitting a 9-iron over the green, onto the clubhouse roof and down the other side. He followed that by making four straight bogeys Saturday, his longest such streak in nearly 10 years.
Under darkening clouds in the final round, he went from a two-shot deficit to a three-shot lead in a span of four holes, then lost a three-shot lead over the final three holes to slip into a playoff.
"I was very lucky to even be in the playoff," Woods said.
The result was familiar, especially at this event. Woods now has won five times at Firestone, the most of any golf course on the PGA Tour. He has won four times each at Augusta National and Torrey Pines.
His latest winning streak required more than a little luck. Woods has won his last four starts, his longest winning streak since he won six in a row at the end of the 1999 season and the beginning of 2000.
That was Woods at his peak, and he might be heading there again. He doesn't always win easily, but he finds a way.
"You don't know how many chances you're going to have to beat Tiger in a playoff in your career," Cink said.
Leaderboard
1. Woods (-10)*
2. Cink (-10)
3. Furyk (-9)
T-4. Love III (-7)
T-4. Cabrera (-7)
T-4. Casey (-7)
T-4. Glover (-7)
* -- won on fourth playoff hole
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Cink, who missed an 8-foot par putt that would have won on the third playoff hole, hit into the bunker and blasted out to 6 feet on the 17th. Before he could save par, he wound up shaking hands with Woods and watching him collect another World Golf Championship.
"I didn't convert, and he did," Cink said. "That's why he has the trophy."
And to think it was 10 years ago Sunday -- Aug. 27, 1996 -- that he introduced himself to the PGA Tour by saying, "Hello, world."
These days, he is saying "goodbye" to the competition.
A week ago, he captured the PGA Championship for his 12th career major, trailing only the 18 won by Jack Nicklaus. He now has 52 victories, and only Arnold Palmer (62), Ben Hogan (64), Nicklaus (73) and Sam Snead (82) have more.
Even so, Woods said he is only worried about himself.
"It's always yourself," he said. "You're always trying to better what you've done in the past -- always. Hopefully, that's good enough to beat the rest of the guys."
Cink was looking for a peculiar repeat.
Two years ago, he validated Hal Sutton's decision to make him a captain's pick for the Ryder Cup by winning at Firestone. Tom Lehman picked him on Monday, and Cink nearly delivered his first victory in two years.
"There were a lot of highs and lows today," Cink said. "Unfortunately, I finished on a low."
Cink had a shot to win on the first three playoff holes -- a 20-foot chip that grazed the lip at No. 18, an 18-foot putt that missed on the high side at No. 17, and an 8-foot par putt on the 18th again that missed to the right.
Woods was in trouble most of the time. On the first extra hole, he pulled his approach long and left into the rough, but pitched beautifully to 5 feet and escaped with par. The second time playing the 18th in the playoff, Woods found a greenside bunker 40 feet from the flag, blasted out to 8 feet and left it inches short.
Victory seemed inevitable for Woods, as it often does at Firestone, when he turned a two-shot deficit at the turn into a three-shot lead with his 20-foot birdie on the 13th. No one else was making birdies, and Woods wasn't making mistakes.
That changed on the 652-yard 16th hole, when Woods hit into the trees down the right side and had to pitch out to the fairway, leaving himself some 230 yards to the flag. He went over the green, chipped to 4 feet and missed the par putt.
Cink, who started the final round with a one-shot lead, holed a 15-foot birdie on the 16th hole, then made a 20-foot birdie putt on the 17th hole to tie Woods atop the leaderboard.
Woods (68) and Cink (69) each had to make a testy 3-footer for par on the 18th hole in regulation -- Woods after leaving his 20-foot putt from the fringe short, Cink after lagging from 90 feet at the front of the green.
Jim Furyk closed with a 68 to finish one shot behind, making a 10-foot par save on the 18th to give himself a chance. Paul Casey of England, among four players atop the leaderboard at one point in the final round, stumbled on the back nine and shot 71. He tied for fourth along with Angel Cabrera (65), Lucas Glover (69) and Davis Love III (71).
Woods, Cink and Furyk headed to the Cleveland airport to join the rest of their U.S. Ryder Cup team for a charter flight to Ireland, where they plan to spend the next two days practicing at The K Club.
Woods and Phil Mickelson, the top two players in the world, rearranged their schedule to make the trip. Asked if that sent a strong message to their 10 teammates, Lehman replied, "It sends a strong message to the other team."
When the Americans return on Wednesday, Woods will go for a fifth straight victory when he plays the Deutsche Bank Championship outside Boston. He already has won six of his 13 starts on the PGA Tour this year.
Copyright 2006 by The Associated Press
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Wow...that's pretty amazing for someone who isn't an athelete
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So, now Chess is a sport because someone can play it at a crazy level?
So, now Chess is a sport because someone can play it at a crazy level?
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What the fuck does that have to do with Tiger Woods? Stay the fuck away from these topics. All you do is ruin them
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