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#11

QUOTE(Brains @ Oct 12 2006, 12:39 AM) how do you call it then bm? honest advertising? lol
Yes

We gave him the Basketball
We gave him NEW reactor's
We gave him $5 Billion worth of fuel
We gave him Billions of dollars for him to promise not to restart his program
We gave his country billion(s) tons of wheat to feed them

What part of it is a lie?

#12

err. these facts you post might not be lies bm...

but... *aheum* you do not think anything is wrong with this clip? that it is an honest depiction of what the democrats stand for? you do not think there is suggestive speech used? that the listener, viewer is not tricked into accepting conclusions much against the democratical party; conclusions based on assumptions?!

really?! /huh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":huh:" border="0" alt="huh.gif" />

#13

btw, Kramer (and bm for that matter): who actually said this was propaganda, hmm?! /wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />

i said if it were an official republican ad, it would be. i'll break it down line by line. I think almost every single sentence is suggestive - except for the first two... got to go now. cheers.

#14

QUOTE(Kramer @ Oct 12 2006, 01:22 AM) Man... Michael Moore makes a two hour movie filled with bullshit and the people against Bush don't say shit... Someone makes a ridiculous three minute clip poking fun at Democrats and the people against Bush say it's propaganda...

Whatever. I chuckled.

I didn't think this was against Democrats, just pointing out their policy doesn't work. I don't see this as anti-Democrat, but anti-Appeasement, which is popular among Democrats.

#15

"appeasement" really will also have its limits for dems raum. and it is not like the all guns blazing approach works wonders or does it?! /huh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":huh:" border="0" alt="huh.gif" />

anyhow: you do not think anything is wrong with this clip? that it is an honest depiction of what the democrats stand for? you do not think there is suggestive speech used? that the listener, viewer is not tricked into accepting conclusions much against the democratical party; conclusions based on false and / or very very loose assumptions?!

Bot · #16

Who the hell cares?! How is it any different from the many ads put out by the 527 groups during elections?

Your questions are ridiculous... /blink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blink:" border="0" alt="blink.gif" />

#17

QUOTE(Kramer @ Oct 12 2006, 10:55 PM) Who the hell cares?! How is it any different from the many ads put out by the 527 groups during elections?

Your questions are ridiculous... /blink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blink:" border="0" alt="blink.gif" />
oh. they are questions. why are they ridiculous?

i am just interested in how you as americans (or canadians! /wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" /> ) approach this. do you put this shit into perspective? do you think twice? or are you "oh yeah! YEAH! straight up!!!"?! I am really curious...

#18

Two pages of posting made me curious what the fuss was. So no one sees a defference between how you deal with a country and its leaders and how you deal with scatterd terrorist groups with no country.Arent there all kinds of pressures you can put on a country that would have no effect on the terrorists.Nobody thinks its worth trying now that china might be on board. You guys on the right seem to be disagreeing with your president. As for the dems giving him stuff back in the 90s im sure we will give him more stuff now if he makes a deal. Didnt the world just offer stuff to iraq

#19

QUOTE(highlife @ Oct 12 2006, 05:47 PM) Two pages of posting made me curious what the fuss was. So no one sees a defference between how you deal with a country and its leaders and how you deal with scatterd terrorist groups with no country.Arent there all kinds of pressures you can put on a country that would have no effect on the terrorists.Nobody thinks its worth trying now that china might be on board. You guys on the right seem to be disagreeing with your president. As for the dems giving him stuff back in the 90s im sure we will give him more stuff now if he makes a deal. Didnt the world just offer stuff to iraq
I think that the days for making deals with this asshole are over, how many times will we burn our hand before we get the hint?