Real Quick, since you didn't like my dunk clip, maybe you'll like this one...
It's D. Wade, LeBron, and Nash talking about how great Kobe is...
http://tinyurl.com/2hvdar
Feel free to add your sentiments in the mix... /wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />
Anyway...
Not every other guard in the league, guards aren't the only players that can chalk up dimes...LeBron is among the leaders...So is TMac...Add to that, the fact that there are 2 guard on every team...Kobe averages more assists than Tony Parker, an all star PG...The Kobe don't pass argument don't hold water Homez, sorry...21st in the league is mad respectable for a man that averages 30 points a game...
At any rate, I'd like someone to explain to me me this statement, cause I hear it alot...
a player that can make his entire team better is the better player in my eyes...
Now, what exactly is it that Nash is doing...That would make his entire team better..? Is he creating offense through defense..? Invigorating his team through passionate speeches..?
He must be doing something, cause this debate is obviously not solved by comparing numbers...There is some intangible that Nash has, and Kobe does not, that is simple and plain as day...Please tell me what it is...
Is he putting this team on his back somehow..? Is Nash the reason Amare is putting up 33 points and grabbing 16 boards..? Did Nash make The Matrix an All Star..?
Are you saying that Lamar Odom hasn't had his best season playing next to Kobe..? Are you saying that aside from Shaq, any player on any Lakers team that had Kobe is a bonafied star on another team..? D. Fisher has better numbers now than he did in L.A..? Man, I sure hope not...
I'm ready to listen..Err, read... /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
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Uh...he's tied for 21st.....but nice try....attempting to insult my ability to read a chart doesn't make up for the fact that you have no idea what you're talking about
oh and let's talk about this little fact you threw out there.... 22nd in the league pretty much means every other guard in the league has more assists...impressive.
are you serious? 32 teams in the league...2 guards a piece...that's 64 guards...and only 20 people have more assists than Kobe....not even a third of the STARTING guards have more assists..
seriously where did you learn how to do math?
shit you haven't made a factual post yet...all you do is throw out your bullshit opinions. I'm open to discuss this...I need someone who actually knows wtf they're talking about
oh and let's talk about this little fact you threw out there.... 22nd in the league pretty much means every other guard in the league has more assists...impressive.
are you serious? 32 teams in the league...2 guards a piece...that's 64 guards...and only 20 people have more assists than Kobe....not even a third of the STARTING guards have more assists..
seriously where did you learn how to do math?
shit you haven't made a factual post yet...all you do is throw out your bullshit opinions. I'm open to discuss this...I need someone who actually knows wtf they're talking about
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I'm gonna have to agree with LG and Ty on this one. As much as I love Nash and how great of a teammate he is, Kobe is the shit and there is no denying that. He scores, dishes, rebounds, and isn't getting into trouble (this year). He's definitely the best player right now
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I keep looking at these stats...
Nash has:
Better Feild Goal %
Better Free Throw %
Better 3 point %
Leads The League In Assists
...and Back to Back MVP
You asked who we think is the better player...that is who I pick.
I didn't know I'd be fucking crucified for my opinion
I hope nobody else comes in here and names anybody besides Kobe (or Nash)...god damn...I'd feel fucking sorry for them...
So, next time you create a thread and ask a question or someone's opinion
...expect a different answer than yours once in awhile...or Fuck Off.
Nash has:
Better Feild Goal %
Better Free Throw %
Better 3 point %
Leads The League In Assists
...and Back to Back MVP
You asked who we think is the better player...that is who I pick.
I didn't know I'd be fucking crucified for my opinion
I hope nobody else comes in here and names anybody besides Kobe (or Nash)...god damn...I'd feel fucking sorry for them...
So, next time you create a thread and ask a question or someone's opinion
...expect a different answer than yours once in awhile...or Fuck Off.
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Nash has:
100 less made field goals than Kobe
400 less made free throws than Kobe
20 more made threes than Kobe
Is 30th in the league in scoring
...and no championships
Oh, and guess who just made NBA history tonight..?
50 pts, 7 boards...And a Laker victory...No wonder Nash thinks he's the greatest...
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100 less made field goals than Kobe
400 less made free throws than Kobe
20 more made threes than Kobe
Is 30th in the league in scoring
...and no championships
Oh, and guess who just made NBA history tonight..?
50 pts, 7 boards...And a Laker victory...No wonder Nash thinks he's the greatest...
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Not to mention....your "best player on the best team"....would give the nod to Dirk...no?
but let me guess...you'll fight against statistics and say that it doesn't matter that the Mav's have a better record and made it to the championship last year....because the Suns ___________
I can't even imagine what your excuse will be this time to say it's nash...
but let me guess...you'll fight against statistics and say that it doesn't matter that the Mav's have a better record and made it to the championship last year....because the Suns ___________
I can't even imagine what your excuse will be this time to say it's nash...
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QUOTE(Lost Ghost @ Mar 24 2007, 11:30 AM) Stubborn ass fanboy...
and what does this thread make you, RoundBoy?
and for the 8th time...why did you even ask the question then??
please change the name of this thread to the "I'd rather eat Kobe's ass than look at anybody else in the league" thread...it would make more sense...
either way...see you in the playoffs, Andy...
thought you were a Piston's fan anyway? or was it the Bulls? Fucking Bandwagoneer
and YES...Dirk KICKS ASS...and is absolutley MVP worthy...He WINS GAMES...but you wouldn't see that beacuse your jelly doughnut covered face is far too burried in Kobe's fucking taint.
@ Ja...back to buisness, bro..
100 less made field goals than Kobe
and how many shots has Kobe taken? 1,390?!? Holy Fuck!!
400 less made free throws than Kobe
and how many FT's has Kobe taken? 637?? Holy Fuck!!
20 more made threes than Kobe
with 39 less attempts!!
Is 30th in the league in scoring
and first in the league in assists...and we already won the division...and he's a back to back MVP!!
The only reason Kobe has Championships is because they had an AMAZING team when they were winning them!
dude...
Is Kobe a great player? Absolutley! I have no problem giving credit where credit is due...But he could be BETTER...all the talent in the world and all he's worried about is fucking dunks and showboating and seeing how many points he can score everynight...I say play the game the way it's supposed to be played and the Lakers could still be winning championships
50 points...(one fucking assist)...and they barely eek out a win over New Orleans?? New Orleans!! That's not going to cut it against playoff caliber teams, bro!
damn.
I pray to God we get your Lakers in the first round so we can fucking Destroy them.
Tell your boy to get his golf clubs ready... /wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />
p.s. Kobe has been suspended TWICE this season for smacking dudes in the face after they block his shot?
c'mon, man...
and what does this thread make you, RoundBoy?
and for the 8th time...why did you even ask the question then??
please change the name of this thread to the "I'd rather eat Kobe's ass than look at anybody else in the league" thread...it would make more sense...
either way...see you in the playoffs, Andy...
thought you were a Piston's fan anyway? or was it the Bulls? Fucking Bandwagoneer
and YES...Dirk KICKS ASS...and is absolutley MVP worthy...He WINS GAMES...but you wouldn't see that beacuse your jelly doughnut covered face is far too burried in Kobe's fucking taint.
@ Ja...back to buisness, bro..
100 less made field goals than Kobe
and how many shots has Kobe taken? 1,390?!? Holy Fuck!!
400 less made free throws than Kobe
and how many FT's has Kobe taken? 637?? Holy Fuck!!
20 more made threes than Kobe
with 39 less attempts!!
Is 30th in the league in scoring
and first in the league in assists...and we already won the division...and he's a back to back MVP!!
The only reason Kobe has Championships is because they had an AMAZING team when they were winning them!
dude...
Is Kobe a great player? Absolutley! I have no problem giving credit where credit is due...But he could be BETTER...all the talent in the world and all he's worried about is fucking dunks and showboating and seeing how many points he can score everynight...I say play the game the way it's supposed to be played and the Lakers could still be winning championships
50 points...(one fucking assist)...and they barely eek out a win over New Orleans?? New Orleans!! That's not going to cut it against playoff caliber teams, bro!
damn.
I pray to God we get your Lakers in the first round so we can fucking Destroy them.
Tell your boy to get his golf clubs ready... /wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />
p.s. Kobe has been suspended TWICE this season for smacking dudes in the face after they block his shot?
c'mon, man...
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CDR..!
Kobe is gangsta..!
Last years finals saw The Suns beat the Lakers 4-3...It can happen, and we might need to start making some Avatar bets...
We could use a gambling feature on the site, I'll have to look into that...
But that's a good question, why Nash over Dirk..?
Kobe is gangsta..!
Last years finals saw The Suns beat the Lakers 4-3...It can happen, and we might need to start making some Avatar bets...
We could use a gambling feature on the site, I'll have to look into that...
But that's a good question, why Nash over Dirk..?
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He plays for PHX of course....
and I like how you again prove your immaturity by turning a thread that you have no factual backup to refute my points into a personal attack on me...when you don't know me....
Congrats on looking like an asshole, and still not proving your point...
And your excuse for Kobe winning a championship and not Nash is that Kobe had an amazing team when they did it?...get that shit out of here....Nash and Dirk were on the same team for a long time and couldn't get it done....and now Nash has 2 bona fide all stars on his team...and they still won't get it done.
I hope they play the Lakers as well, not saying that the Lakers would win...but it'd be nice to see Nash vs Kobe....even tho Kobe could cover Nash...but Nash would have no chance on Kobe..
and I like how you again prove your immaturity by turning a thread that you have no factual backup to refute my points into a personal attack on me...when you don't know me....
Congrats on looking like an asshole, and still not proving your point...
And your excuse for Kobe winning a championship and not Nash is that Kobe had an amazing team when they did it?...get that shit out of here....Nash and Dirk were on the same team for a long time and couldn't get it done....and now Nash has 2 bona fide all stars on his team...and they still won't get it done.
I hope they play the Lakers as well, not saying that the Lakers would win...but it'd be nice to see Nash vs Kobe....even tho Kobe could cover Nash...but Nash would have no chance on Kobe..
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