2008 NCAA Football Thread
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I hate it that Texas is the only team that can play with Oklahoma...Bradford didn't hit the ground not one time vs Mizzou...2 teams that Texas beat handily played for teh championship...This is some bullshit...We are looking at a meaningless game vs Ohio State...Man that pisses me off to a level that is unreal...I would rather have played Alabama...Ohio State..?!?! Horrible...
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2008-09 Bowl Schedule
All dates and times are tentative.
Date - Bowl - Teams - Game Time (ET) - TV Network
Dec. 20 EagleBank Bowl Navy vs. Wake Forest 11 a.m. ESPN
Dec. 20 New Mexico Bowl Colorado State vs. Fresno State 2:30 p.m. ESPN
Dec. 20 St. Petersburg Bowl South Florida vs. Memphis 4:30 p.m. ESPN2
Dec. 20 Las Vegas Bowl BYU vs. Arizona 8 p.m. ESPN
Dec. 21 New Orleans Bowl Troy vs. Southern Miss 8:15 p.m. ESPN
Dec. 23 Poinsettia Bowl TCU vs. Boise State 8 p.m. ESPN
Dec. 24 Hawaii Bowl Hawaii vs. Notre Dame 8 p.m. ESPN
Dec. 26 Motor City Bowl Central Michigan vs. Florida Atlantic 7:30 p.m. ESPN
Dec. 27 Meineke Car Care Bowl West Virginia vs. North Carolina 1 p.m. ESPN
Dec. 27 Champs Sports Bowl Florida State vs. Wisconsin 4:30 p.m. ESPN
Dec. 27 Emerald Bowl California vs. Miami (Fla.) 8 p.m. ESPN
Dec. 28 Independence Bowl Louisiana Tech vs. Northern Illinois 8 p.m. ESPN
Dec. 29 PapaJohns.com Bowl Rutgers vs. N.C. State 3 p.m. ESPN
Dec. 29 Alamo Bowl Northwestern vs. Missouri 8 p.m. ESPN
Dec. 30 Humanitarian Bowl Maryland vs. Nevada 4:30 p.m. ESPN
Dec. 30 Holiday Bowl Oregon vs. Oklahoma State 8 p.m. ESPN
Dec. 30 Texas Bowl Rice vs. Western Michigan 8 p.m. NFL
Dec. 31 Armed Forces Bowl Air Force vs. Houston 12 p.m. ESPN
Dec. 31 Sun Bowl Oregon State vs. Pittsburgh 2 p.m. CBS
Dec. 31 Music City Bowl Boston College vs. Vanderbilt 3:30 p.m. ESPN
Dec. 31 Insight Bowl Kansas vs. Minnesota 6 p.m. NFL
Dec. 31 Chick-fil-A Bowl Georgia Tech vs. LSU 7:30 p.m. ESPN
Jan. 1 Outback Bowl Iowa vs. South Carolina 11 a.m. ESPN
Jan. 1 Capital One Bowl Georgia vs. Michigan State 1 p.m. ABC
Jan. 1 Gator Bowl Clemson vs. Nebraska 1 p.m. CBS
Jan. 1 Rose Bowl USC vs. Penn State 5 p.m. ABC
Jan. 1 Orange Bowl Cincinnati vs. Virginia Tech 8:30 p.m. FOX
Jan. 2 Cotton Bowl Texas Tech vs. Ole Miss 2 p.m. FOX
Jan. 2 Liberty Bowl East Carolina vs. Kentucky 5 p.m. ESPN
Jan. 2 Sugar Bowl Utah vs. Alabama 8 p.m. FOX
Jan. 3 International Bowl Connecticut vs. Buffalo 12 p.m. ESPN2
Jan. 5 Fiesta Bowl Ohio State vs. Texas 8 p.m. FOX
Jan. 6 GMAC Bowl Tulsa vs. Ball State 8 p.m. ESPN
Jan. 8 BCS Title Game Oklahoma vs. Florida 8 p.m. FOX
All dates and times are tentative.
Date - Bowl - Teams - Game Time (ET) - TV Network
Dec. 20 EagleBank Bowl Navy vs. Wake Forest 11 a.m. ESPN
Dec. 20 New Mexico Bowl Colorado State vs. Fresno State 2:30 p.m. ESPN
Dec. 20 St. Petersburg Bowl South Florida vs. Memphis 4:30 p.m. ESPN2
Dec. 20 Las Vegas Bowl BYU vs. Arizona 8 p.m. ESPN
Dec. 21 New Orleans Bowl Troy vs. Southern Miss 8:15 p.m. ESPN
Dec. 23 Poinsettia Bowl TCU vs. Boise State 8 p.m. ESPN
Dec. 24 Hawaii Bowl Hawaii vs. Notre Dame 8 p.m. ESPN
Dec. 26 Motor City Bowl Central Michigan vs. Florida Atlantic 7:30 p.m. ESPN
Dec. 27 Meineke Car Care Bowl West Virginia vs. North Carolina 1 p.m. ESPN
Dec. 27 Champs Sports Bowl Florida State vs. Wisconsin 4:30 p.m. ESPN
Dec. 27 Emerald Bowl California vs. Miami (Fla.) 8 p.m. ESPN
Dec. 28 Independence Bowl Louisiana Tech vs. Northern Illinois 8 p.m. ESPN
Dec. 29 PapaJohns.com Bowl Rutgers vs. N.C. State 3 p.m. ESPN
Dec. 29 Alamo Bowl Northwestern vs. Missouri 8 p.m. ESPN
Dec. 30 Humanitarian Bowl Maryland vs. Nevada 4:30 p.m. ESPN
Dec. 30 Holiday Bowl Oregon vs. Oklahoma State 8 p.m. ESPN
Dec. 30 Texas Bowl Rice vs. Western Michigan 8 p.m. NFL
Dec. 31 Armed Forces Bowl Air Force vs. Houston 12 p.m. ESPN
Dec. 31 Sun Bowl Oregon State vs. Pittsburgh 2 p.m. CBS
Dec. 31 Music City Bowl Boston College vs. Vanderbilt 3:30 p.m. ESPN
Dec. 31 Insight Bowl Kansas vs. Minnesota 6 p.m. NFL
Dec. 31 Chick-fil-A Bowl Georgia Tech vs. LSU 7:30 p.m. ESPN
Jan. 1 Outback Bowl Iowa vs. South Carolina 11 a.m. ESPN
Jan. 1 Capital One Bowl Georgia vs. Michigan State 1 p.m. ABC
Jan. 1 Gator Bowl Clemson vs. Nebraska 1 p.m. CBS
Jan. 1 Rose Bowl USC vs. Penn State 5 p.m. ABC
Jan. 1 Orange Bowl Cincinnati vs. Virginia Tech 8:30 p.m. FOX
Jan. 2 Cotton Bowl Texas Tech vs. Ole Miss 2 p.m. FOX
Jan. 2 Liberty Bowl East Carolina vs. Kentucky 5 p.m. ESPN
Jan. 2 Sugar Bowl Utah vs. Alabama 8 p.m. FOX
Jan. 3 International Bowl Connecticut vs. Buffalo 12 p.m. ESPN2
Jan. 5 Fiesta Bowl Ohio State vs. Texas 8 p.m. FOX
Jan. 6 GMAC Bowl Tulsa vs. Ball State 8 p.m. ESPN
Jan. 8 BCS Title Game Oklahoma vs. Florida 8 p.m. FOX
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I gotta say it...
Even though I'm a LONGHORN to the heart, its a travesty to seem them omit Graham Harrell from the Heisman voting...System QB or not, dude can play...To not do him the honor to invite him, that's just not right...I'm sure he'll get a consolation prize somewhere, but that's just wrong...
I hope Colt wins it, nobody meant more to their team than he....
LMAO @ Notre Dame in the Hawaii Bow..! :P
Even though I'm a LONGHORN to the heart, its a travesty to seem them omit Graham Harrell from the Heisman voting...System QB or not, dude can play...To not do him the honor to invite him, that's just not right...I'm sure he'll get a consolation prize somewhere, but that's just wrong...
I hope Colt wins it, nobody meant more to their team than he....
LMAO @ Notre Dame in the Hawaii Bow..! :P
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I understand why they didn't. According to many pundits, Harrell got such a low percent of the vote there was no way he'd get even close to winning. Thus no sense to hype up a lost cause. Plus, both he and Crabtree ended up taking votes away from each other. Does he deserve to be there, maybe, but a chance to win, not even close.
and don't sell the Hawaii Bowl short. We in Hawaii think it's pretty cool to have the Golden Domers here. At least Hawaii has a shot beating Weiss' scrubs. Maybe even put the final nail in his coffin.
and don't sell the Hawaii Bowl short. We in Hawaii think it's pretty cool to have the Golden Domers here. At least Hawaii has a shot beating Weiss' scrubs. Maybe even put the final nail in his coffin.
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A shot..? Shit bro, I hope they win the game..! Trust me, its not a knock on Hawaii, or the bowl...It's a knock on a program that managed to piss me off...I'm already from Chicago, which makes me prone to hate Notre Dame already...That school is constantly swirling with shit I hate to talk about, so I'm glad they're getting their asses kicked...
I hope Hawaii blows them out...Go Warriors..! LoL...
I hope Hawaii blows them out...Go Warriors..! LoL...
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I'll actually be surprised if they show Colt the love...
His decision to stay, while good for us UT fans, is likely to loose him a few votes from those who will be thinking he has another year to earn it....
...and I'm still pissed were playing F'ing Ohio State......
At least my Utes pulled a hell of an opponent. I hate to say they are going to loose... but I don't think they can stop the crimson tide.... I'm just hoping they can keep it close and earn some respect from "the big boys"....
His decision to stay, while good for us UT fans, is likely to loose him a few votes from those who will be thinking he has another year to earn it....
...and I'm still pissed were playing F'ing Ohio State......
At least my Utes pulled a hell of an opponent. I hate to say they are going to loose... but I don't think they can stop the crimson tide.... I'm just hoping they can keep it close and earn some respect from "the big boys"....
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Ute football: The Tide of history
Alabama's tradition is like few others
By Lya Wodraska
The Salt Lake Tribune
Updated: 12/11/2008 01:02:46 AM MST
Outside of Alabama's Bryant-Denny Stadium are four larger-than-life statues of the coaches who led the Crimson Tide to national titles. Next to them is an empty space, reserved for the fifth coach who wins a national championship.
Such is the level of expectations at Alabama, a school located in the heart of the football-rabid South where national titles aren't only dreamed about, but also planned.
If football is a religion in the South, as many southerners will attest, then Alabama arguably is its holiest ground. It's the place where men such as Wallace Wade, Joe Namath and Paul "Bear" Bryant became legends. It's a school where professors make an average salary of $116,000, according to Forbes, and will gladly pay a football coach $32 million over eight years. Is Nick Saban worth it?
No Alabama football fan will say he isn't.
Where Utah fans may view the Utes' trip to the Sugar Bowl as the pinnacle of an undefeated season, Alabama fans see the Jan. 2 bowl game as an indication that Saban merely has the Tide flowing in the right direction once again.
"It's overly simplistic to say that Alabama fans expect to win the national title every year," said Tommy Deas, the executive sports editor for the Tuscaloosa News. "But they feel the program should be at a level like Florida, Georgia, LSU and others, where Alabama is in the discussion on a regular basis and a regular contender for the SEC championship."
Which is to say that yes, championships are expected at Alabama.
It has been that way for many, many years, ever since Alabama won its first of 12 national titles in 1925 through the time Bryant made success as constant a presence in Tuscaloosa as his houndstooth hat. A former Alabama player, Bryant abruptly left Texas A&M to become Alabama's coach in 1958. His decision may have irked some in Texas, but they couldn't argue with his reasoning.
"Mama called," he said. "And when Mama calls, then you just have to come running."
Bryant is often recognized as the program's central figure, leading the Tide to six national titles and 13 SEC championships.
Under his guidance, Alabama participated in 24 straight bowl games, including eight Sugar Bowls. Namath was his most well-known player, leading the Tide to the 1964 national championship.
After Bryant retired in 1982, he was asked what he planned to do. He reportedly said he would "probably croak in a week."
Less than a month later, Bryant died of a heart attack.
Alabama football coaches have been trying to out-coach his ghost ever since.
Gene Stallings, a former player for Bryant, led the Tide to the 1992 national title, but his seven-year stint was marred by NCAA investigations and probation. Mike DuBose was replaced after three seasons remembered more for his highly publicized affair with his secretary than his wins on the field, Washington State coach Mike Price was hired then fired after an embarrassing scandal in which he spent several hundred dollars at a strip club in Florida, and Mike Shula was fired after four seasons.
In 2007, Saban became the highest-paid college football coach when he agreed to coach the Tide. It didn't matter that he had coached at rival LSU; what mattered to Alabama fans was he was a proven winner after leading the Tigers to the 2003 national championship. More than 92,000-plus fans turned out to watch him coach his first spring game.
"He was immediately embraced as a savior who would return Alabama to what Crimson Tide fans believe is its rightful place in the college football pantheon," Deas said.
Alabama finished a disappointing 7-6 last year, but any thoughts that the school had made another bad hire were squashed this season as the Tide came within a win of playing for the national title.
The loss to Florida in the SEC championship game ended those national hopes. But it did set up a Sugar Bowl matchup between a school known for its history and a school trying to become known nationally.
It could be intimidating for the Utes, thinking about all that history of the Bear, Namath and championships. But Namath won't be playing, the Bear is buried in Birmingham, and past championships don't count for current points.
The 2009 Sugar Bowl isn't about history, Utah quarterback Brian Johnson pointed out earlier this week, "it's about 2008," he said.
Alabama's tradition is like few others
By Lya Wodraska
The Salt Lake Tribune
Updated: 12/11/2008 01:02:46 AM MST
Outside of Alabama's Bryant-Denny Stadium are four larger-than-life statues of the coaches who led the Crimson Tide to national titles. Next to them is an empty space, reserved for the fifth coach who wins a national championship.
Such is the level of expectations at Alabama, a school located in the heart of the football-rabid South where national titles aren't only dreamed about, but also planned.
If football is a religion in the South, as many southerners will attest, then Alabama arguably is its holiest ground. It's the place where men such as Wallace Wade, Joe Namath and Paul "Bear" Bryant became legends. It's a school where professors make an average salary of $116,000, according to Forbes, and will gladly pay a football coach $32 million over eight years. Is Nick Saban worth it?
No Alabama football fan will say he isn't.
Where Utah fans may view the Utes' trip to the Sugar Bowl as the pinnacle of an undefeated season, Alabama fans see the Jan. 2 bowl game as an indication that Saban merely has the Tide flowing in the right direction once again.
"It's overly simplistic to say that Alabama fans expect to win the national title every year," said Tommy Deas, the executive sports editor for the Tuscaloosa News. "But they feel the program should be at a level like Florida, Georgia, LSU and others, where Alabama is in the discussion on a regular basis and a regular contender for the SEC championship."
Which is to say that yes, championships are expected at Alabama.
It has been that way for many, many years, ever since Alabama won its first of 12 national titles in 1925 through the time Bryant made success as constant a presence in Tuscaloosa as his houndstooth hat. A former Alabama player, Bryant abruptly left Texas A&M to become Alabama's coach in 1958. His decision may have irked some in Texas, but they couldn't argue with his reasoning.
"Mama called," he said. "And when Mama calls, then you just have to come running."
Bryant is often recognized as the program's central figure, leading the Tide to six national titles and 13 SEC championships.
Under his guidance, Alabama participated in 24 straight bowl games, including eight Sugar Bowls. Namath was his most well-known player, leading the Tide to the 1964 national championship.
After Bryant retired in 1982, he was asked what he planned to do. He reportedly said he would "probably croak in a week."
Less than a month later, Bryant died of a heart attack.
Alabama football coaches have been trying to out-coach his ghost ever since.
Gene Stallings, a former player for Bryant, led the Tide to the 1992 national title, but his seven-year stint was marred by NCAA investigations and probation. Mike DuBose was replaced after three seasons remembered more for his highly publicized affair with his secretary than his wins on the field, Washington State coach Mike Price was hired then fired after an embarrassing scandal in which he spent several hundred dollars at a strip club in Florida, and Mike Shula was fired after four seasons.
In 2007, Saban became the highest-paid college football coach when he agreed to coach the Tide. It didn't matter that he had coached at rival LSU; what mattered to Alabama fans was he was a proven winner after leading the Tigers to the 2003 national championship. More than 92,000-plus fans turned out to watch him coach his first spring game.
"He was immediately embraced as a savior who would return Alabama to what Crimson Tide fans believe is its rightful place in the college football pantheon," Deas said.
Alabama finished a disappointing 7-6 last year, but any thoughts that the school had made another bad hire were squashed this season as the Tide came within a win of playing for the national title.
The loss to Florida in the SEC championship game ended those national hopes. But it did set up a Sugar Bowl matchup between a school known for its history and a school trying to become known nationally.
It could be intimidating for the Utes, thinking about all that history of the Bear, Namath and championships. But Namath won't be playing, the Bear is buried in Birmingham, and past championships don't count for current points.
The 2009 Sugar Bowl isn't about history, Utah quarterback Brian Johnson pointed out earlier this week, "it's about 2008," he said.
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We'll do our best to see that happens. Plus I'll send ND your best when I hit up the game! ;)Kumicho wrote: I hope Hawaii blows them out...Go Warriors..! LoL...
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Well Sam Bradford just won the Heisman. Congrats to him, but I'm not a fan. I think OU just runs up the score and pads the stats. Colt McCoy should have won it
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Its almost as if the people that vote for those things don't even watch football...Colt is easily the most deserving candidate...However, I must say, every one of the candidates this year was deserving, you really can't knock anyone...Oklahoma will get their due in the National Championship, I'm almost certain of it...All their stat padding will come to an end, I will be a Florida Gator on that day, I promise you...We might not win the national championship, didn't win the Heisman, but we won't have 2 losses when its all said and done, I can promise you that...
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