Kumicho wrote:Would have all made alot more sense if at the end of the video you don't see a nurse and the hospital security walk out and say, 'She really is dying,' for him to reply, 'I'll be done in a minute.'
In what way does the fact you are guilty of several moving violations change if you are in transit to a last visitation with a dying relative? The cop COULD have written him up for three tickets from the short clip I saw. I don't agree with draconian traffic laws, but I won't deny that they exist. Face it, Moats lost his cool, the cop was out of the loop, and so his reaction was out of line.
More police this year, and most of them urban WHITE cops, are dead now in every major city that years before. In Philly, where one a week is shot, and a good bit of em around the hospital - Moats would have been on the ground when the women bolted. women have shot cops, too. Those women gave that cop EVERY reason to rip that car apart, cause for all that cop knew - they popped into the hospital to dump some shit off. He had no reason to trust them.
Picture this:
you see a SUV at the light.
you pull up behind it a few cars.
then the SUV rolls early on the red.
If I was a cop, I would think they were trying to evade me, not get to the hospital.
And if you were a cop, you would too, I bet.
We had a situation like this at a Dunkin' Donuts in philly - three cops got blasted at.
And this guy was a third year patrolman who just heard about Norman Smith, who was shot dead in january in an area near there. you know he was really not sure what was going on. besides, he quit and he apologized.
That being said, Ty, I love you like my own but if I was a cop, and I flashed ANYONE in the dark and saw em pull into a lot and hop out tha whip - I'd come out blazing - shit is crazy nowadays.
His judgment was beyond shitty...And I got profiled this morning on the way to work, the shit sucks and cops should really be ashamed of themselves...When you're a cop, you know people are going to assume off the bat you're an asshole...
Yah, his judgement was VERY lame - but no one really treated the cop with any of the civil protocol we call COMMON SENSE; and his third year pride was wounded, and his "power to arrest" was poorly managed in a situation where MOAB training should have told him - get the guys address and mail him the ticket, IF he had already called it in for court. The damn camera mails people tickets. If i was a cop I'd zap yah, scope the plate, and mail a ticket to the address of registration. No reason for me to risk my life on a traffic stop.
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He should have been trying to help them, what would it have hurt..? Even if the dude did everything wrong, when the cop pulled them over, he should have been trying to help...It's not our faults we don't have flashing lights in our cars to let people know we have an emergency, the cop saw the hazard lights, he should have yielded until the situation said otherwise...
Dude was clearly, and I mean CLEARLY out of line on this one...Too much for me to find any fault the other way IMO...[/quote]
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/video?id=6729079
WATCH THIS VIDEO - here the cop before he stops the car - he thinks they are headed to an apartment building - that is where the cop got killed serving a warrant in January. He is also advised the driver of the car has a registered weapon, and the first that happens is they pile out of the car, and the driver comes around the front of the car to the passenger side.
I WOULD HAVE DEFINITELY HAD A GUN OUT. THIS IS THE FIRST COPKILLIN TERRITORY IN DALLAS FOR THREE YEARS where the first cop killed in Dallas for the last three years just got shot.
I don't criticize the cop without also advising that Moats DID commit three violations - one of which he got ticketed for, because we know (from driver's ed) what to so if a moving violation occurs in a traffic stop. On the "62" the cop advises them he is dealing with - that is nonresponse to officer of the law, usually involves drug examination.... so if a cop flashes us, we STOP - and ask the officer to escort us to the hospital where the nurse on duty told us to hury to a realitives last visitation before the die - We don't know how long we have, but it is surely less than 30 minutes. and the cop knows to resolve it there. but the situation which did make itself apparent should have diffused more smoothly. and the cop should have waived the ticket. but you know he was TERRIFIED for a minute. you can even hear his voice crack.
Still, he demonstrates he is NOT ready for patrol work in a high risk capacity.
That is really not a situation a 3rd year patrollman could handle well unless they were REALLY good.
As for you getting "profiled" Ty - what's up? you get a ticket for something you did - or was it a baseless routine stop? cause unless you was "profiled" by radar or witness of violation, a cop needs probabale cause or order for routine stops to commence before he can do that - and you can take that to a lawyer.
