2009 NCAA Football Thread

[Drew]

As to the spotter.

Assuming he wasn't maxing out, which is a fair assumption, because maxing out is just stupid unless its for a competition...the spotter doesn't stand directly over him with his hand under the bar at all times, that would be detrimental to the lifter because his pace may be adjusted. Instead, dudes stand there and are basically there to function as someone to help if you have trouble getting the weight up....if the shit slips...its going down too quick for someone to grab it.

This video for example shows the suicide grip, and a good spotter, but how quick a slip happens and how there's pretty much nothing a spotter can do about it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSJCDcAKShA&feature=fvw

As to the USC thing, I do see what you're saying...and I understand the draw to the city itself and the fame associated with it, and I can see how that may be a big time draw to a lot of players (or people rather)

But my distinction isn't between USC and Northern Illinois here...its between being the number 5 guy at USC or the number 1 at say...Tennessee. Still a big time program, still a great chance to get a lot of exposure, and if you're talented...probably a better chance at getting drafted. Although I do also concede your point about NFL teams being scared of someone with a lot of miles on their wheels when they make it to the NFL.

My issue with this situation is with this one in particular though, not with players choosing USC to be the number 2...being the number 2 at USC is pretty much the same (if not much better) than being the number 1 a lot of other places for the reasons you mentioned...but being the number SIX?! Like why would you want to put yourself in a situation where you would be 6th on the depth chart if you have the skills and ability to play anywhere?

Like...I mean I'm just looking at this from my personal perspective. USC isn't winning more than a lot of other top tier programs right now...Texas, Florida, LSU, Ohio State...I mean there are a lot of programs with legitimate shots every year to win it all (USC is more appealing for the reasons you brought up, to most people) but I just can't see the benefit of getting into a situation where you're battling with six dudes. I mean I've discussed this situation with a number of people who follow USC football closely and have said that there were like 9 dudes who were in the mix to begin with and every single one of them probably had NFL talent.

Is the USC draw that great to be the number 4-6 guy there as opposed to the 1-2 at another big time program?

[AYHJA]

Obviously so Mang, from what I understand, those guys have great camaraderie, and being in Hollywood just has tremendous appeal to a young guy...I mean, how many schools in the country can say they hang with Snoop after practice..? Lets go hang out at the Union vs lets go hang out at the Playboy party...Plus, if you really want to be great, the only way you can do it is by working with and going against the best...I was listening to the running back Choice after last night's MNF game, and he pretty much had it down pat...Hey says that Marion mentors him and makes him a better player...And while he doesn't want to see him or the guy in front of him hurt, he understands its his job to play if something happens....

Most guys in college will not be #1 type backs...Most guys, in fact, work best in a 2 back system + a 3rd down back so...If you're @ USC, which is 6 deep like you said, you can get on the field almost every game...They have a Reggie Bush type, a Lendale Type, and 3rd down/every down type, and all of them could see time at once...You could see McKnight lined out wide, w/#13 and #2 in the backfield...In the typical USC game, each back could easily touch the rock 4-6 times a game...

[AYHJA]

58–40–5

[Skinny Bastard]

Ok - I am probably going to feel real stupid.... but ....... huh?

[trashtalkr]

I think that's the all time record for Texas vs. OU.

Am I right Ty?

[trashtalkr]

I hate all the polls for college football! How is it that Oregon beats USC and is still ranked below BSU and TCU? Yes, I know that BSU beat Oregon, but it was the first game of the season and Oregon is the only ranked team BSU has played! Their schedule is shit after that! The only ranked team that TCU has played is BYU!

How is that that 2 teams from shitty conference are ranked higher than a Pac-10 team who has beaten 3 teams in the top 20 (Cal, Utah, USC) and also beat tough teams like Purdue and UW?

That is fucking bullshit

[Skinny Bastard]

it goes without saying that the BCS computer system is broken when one of the computers actually puts IOWA at first (wtf) AND only one of the computers puts Texas at 2nd (and none of them at first)...

[Drew]

I hate all the polls for college football! How is it that Oregon beats USC and is still ranked below BSU and TCU? Yes, I know that BSU beat Oregon, but it was the first game of the season and Oregon is the only ranked team BSU has played! Their schedule is shit after that! The only ranked team that TCU has played is BYU!

How is that that 2 teams from shitty conference are ranked higher than a Pac-10 team who has beaten 3 teams in the top 20 (Cal, Utah, USC) and also beat tough teams like Purdue and UW?

That is fucking bullshit

Because they're unbeaten?

How is this not obvious lol...

I don't even understand how you could possibly argue that Oregon should be ranked above a team that is undefeated AND has beat them...

Undefeated > any # of losses (regardless of competition) in this polling system. And considering the small number of teams that actually end up undefeated at the end of the season....I'm okay with that.

[Skinny Bastard]

Because they're unbeaten?

How is this not obvious lol...

I don't even understand how you could possibly argue that Oregon should be ranked above a team that is undefeated AND has beat them...

Undefeated > any # of losses (regardless of competition) in this polling system. And considering the small number of teams that actually end up undefeated at the end of the season....I'm okay with that.

OK - so explain to me why UTAH did not play for the national Championship last year... undefeated....

[Drew]

I don't control who the BCS puts in bowl games...

I'm talking about how the polling works at this point in the season....not the final poll..and not who plays in what bowl game and why.

Until we get down to the end of the season and SOS and conferences come into play.....undefeateds > teams with losses.