Episode III

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Ok, back to darth vader,

Now, this is one of my biggest problems with te whole damn thing.

Darth Vader was cool back in the 70's, but now, with the tech revolution we have, he is obsolete.

Look at that corny get-up. It was cool, but hell so was He-Man at one time.

Check his feeding tube in the hemet, or his "oxygen pump" in his helmet. Man, my step dad's has a breathing pack and it is smaller than darth vaders, and it don't sound like he's sucking his last either. His optical units are bug eyes, and it still don't explain why he gotta have michael jackson's nose...

And what kind of fool gonna put his control panel on his chest???

Personally, I say scrap him, and start over.

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ROTFLMBAOCDR..!!!!!!

See, I think the thing is, he is more fucked up than modern technology would allow, so all the elaborate mechanics are very necessary, otherwise he would not have survived...

Though I never thought about it, I did think that it was interesting that I'd never thought about the fact that Vader never used Sith Lightning...All courtesy of Darth Tyrranus and that swift ass whippin' he handed down...

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and that's another thing,

man Lucas is such a language hack he can't decide what to name people.

look at the names of these sith lords!!!

sneer
tyrannus
sidious
maul

and then out of no where, we got a asian fetish model...

xio jade!!!

Its absurd, all of it. This is not the names of a glalaxy far far away... this is names that are exactly words of antiquity from any culture he could get a finger in. The man has never had any direction, his "i got the whole story figured out" line is bullshit, because it is not fitting together, and is constantly limited to what we understand.

What about the short story that predated the movies, and there is no mention of lightsabers in the whole damn story! What about the whole idea of the "virgin birth" of Anakin Skywalker... where did ya get that, ya friggin genuis?

I know the greatest part of the whole damn story (and therefore one of the most horrible parts under its current representation) is Yoda, who is being punked as the worst kind of mentor; the kind who lets his own confusion force him to a position that alienates his students. Why the hell whould Yoda say "No" to the kid who has the best Jedi blood in the whole midichlorian infused universe? No better to put him in the class and feel shamed and constantly trying to prove his masters wrong because they consider him a failure before he is ever tested.

As a teacher, I know if you treat your students like that, you breed resentment for the very tradition you seek to upohold and pass on.

It seems I know that, and the Master of the Jedi does not.

Yoda has gotten the overhaul of shame because George Lucas never had a hand in his construction, and can not direct Yoda. He cannot fathom the fact that Yoda has become the whole Essence of the Force and it speaks t him as a composite being. The Yoda he portrays would eaily be swayed to the Dark side his damn self! He's centuries OLD and still a lil impatient and demanding know-it-all impetuous fool.

Yoda is an invention of Jim Henson, god rest his soul and bless him through the ages. Jim was a genuis. Jim was a mystic, Jim was a student of the occult and paranormal that is concealed within all of Nature, even the smile of children who raise their heads to greet the sun.

But, Lucas, shee man, he been stringing people along through the most disconnected "space opera" of all times.

but its his story, let him fuck it up, while all the fans suck it up.

I do not think Lucas's goal is money, ironically. I think it is that he understands that he cannot "grasp" the Force as it is, but he has found keys. He made the original attempts at the movie to try and work the ideas around to make some kind of cohesive picture. It was a phenomenon. It came out at the perfect time, and with the perfect pitch for humankind's aspirations at the time.

He grasped that for a minute, and refuses to let it go. He refuses to submit, and so he will never taste of the mastery of his own creation. He has constantly sought to expound it, and its meaning still escapes him. He deals with that pressure, and the weight of it upon is must be terrible, but that is no excuse for divorcing ones story line from the engine behind the intial direction.

His Jedi Order is a shame upon all real students of the Mysteries, and their beckering and petty desires show he has little understanding of the very Force that is the inspiration for his entire disastrous epic sage.

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Hey AYHJA...that was a pretty cool link there
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It came out at the perfect time, and with the perfect pitch for humankind's aspirations at the time...

...He has constantly sought to expound it, and its meaning still escapes him. He deals with that pressure, and the weight of it upon is must be terrible, but that is no excuse for divorcing ones story line from the engine behind the intial direction.  


All that time sequesterd in Skywalker ranch, could have been spent reading, practicing, or at the very least discussing the philosophical and spiritual concepts behind the originals...but no...we got Jar-Jar, midichlorians, and tantrum-rich Jedis. Thanks 'Luke-ass', you done fuck it up goooood.
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amen, xen...

What I don't get is that people said he "let go" of the whole Darth Vader being the child of the Force, with no father to speak of.

Now, cmon, if ya goin to be the FORCE's only child (which luke upholds in the plot for the new one) and ya stuck with the most drama baby mama in a galaxy far far away. Shit, ya the child of the FORCE,.. ya gotta be ready for that shit, yo? All you can do is say, "Damn, Padme,.. I'm the only child of the FORCE, we live in the most fucked up world and for some reason all humans in the future are monogamous or bald and don't fuck noone... when the consciousness I inherited is the product of a all pervasive presence that touches upon every living being in creation... so forgive me if I don't see what ya all wet-eyed over. Padme, the force is in us all... even the hot chicks. it just so happens, I am the force."

I mean its not like he weas hittin all this crazy shit, he just got "seduced by powerful sith power" in the form of a hot asian fetish model/sith who owns the original millenium falcon just so Lucas make tie more shti in that has no place in any of this but was uber popular in Star Wars... I gotta call bullshit on that play before it drops to the line...

You know that right? The whole universe blows up into the Destruction of the Republic and the Ruin of the Order of Jedi... all cause Anakin got some on the side and his baby momma got drama about it. They can make shit float, read minds, all that shit, and they still keep True to their own brother instead of his woman. Another thing, they all excited because they couldn't tell she havin twins... Even the daddy don't know.

Damn, they got cars that fly, lightsabers, super powers like "sith force speed", and they still ain't got a reliable ultrasound??? Ah shit, no wonder they had to send out like thirty dudes to make one shot in Episode 4. They ain't got sonar down, I guess.

That's some shit. Yoda wrote the CODE on Bro's before Ho's... and now he sells out Anakin, who he never liked in the first place, and ultimatrely drove him to evil...

The Jedi would never have you train under only one Knight... You would grow strong attachments, and that is counterproductive to The Nature of the Force as a Universal Essence. This would lead to obsessive mindframes, and political intrigue that would be the disorder and ultimetely, the ruin of any serious growth in the Force. nuff said.

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Adiriel,

Did you also note that Lucas was an algebra freak?

Dig all of the rebel spaceship so far. A,B,X,Y are all algebra terms.

Who knows what they're calling the new ones?
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Disabled,

were it only true he was a Algebra freak.

The letters on the ships are because of their shapes.

The X wing splits open, into a X
The B wing is a cockpit with a barrell underneath, so it looks (loosely) like a B
The A wing is a triangular configuration.

and so on...

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he WAS, however a Kurosawa freak, and decided to cut-and-paste his way through Star Wars, by absolutely pillaging Kurosawa's The Hidden Fortress, right down to camera angles, the two main characters...and those scene transitions. I still prefer that approach than "daring to be original" and "in full control" and killing all my enthusiasm in the process.
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I just downloaded a crystal clear copy of the movie...

So, forgive the randomness of these thoughts...But...

Sam L got his hand cut off, and screamed like a bitch...Straight up...Dude was wailing...

Anakin got his arms and legs cut off, a second time for his arms mind you...In a lava pit...Less mention that medium well skin tan via some 3rd degree burns...

He was not screamin' like no bitch, he took that shit like a G...

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