What is a Friend..?

#1

Friend

Pronunciation: frend
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English frend, from Old English frEond; akin to Old High German friunt friend, Old English frEon to love, frEo free

1: a : one attached to another by affection or esteem... b : ACQUAINTANCE
2: a : one that is not hostile b : one that is of the same nation, party, or group
3: a favored companion

Like I said in another post, this is me, right here, good ole M-W fashion...Maybe I do shit ass backwards, but until someone does something to prove otherwise, I consider everyone here a friend...

At the end of another thread, we got into this discussion, and we would all benefit I think, by discussing the dynamics of it completely...

#2

I'm pretty much the same way... I use "friend" pretty generally with qualifiers to narrow it down. I try and treat everyone the way I'd want to be treated; at least until they start getting in my face and then I have to stomp on them a bit.

I count everyone in here (for the most part) as a friend (yes, even you, Fapper) as this place is where I like to spend a lot of my time. Trust me, if I didn't like being here, if I didn't feel like I was a part of this venture, I wouldn't be here. Since I do.... you're all stuck with me.

#3

I KNOW THIS IS A BIT LONG BUT WORTH A READ

AYHJA:
So X, are you reading this shit in the forum about how Fap really could give a shit about either of us..?
X3n:
my Eenglush not so very well...what is this?...lazyness?
X3n:
I could give a shit about what Fap gives a shit about...
X3n:
we were in fact, just discussing that
Fapper:
indeed
Fapper:
i guess the feeling X understands what i meant there
X3n:
I think so...I can never be sure with your inbalanced ass...
X3n:
but I think I do...
Fapper:
that's part of the understanding
X3n:
hell, I could not give less of a shit for a healthy 95% of the forum population
AYHJA:
I just don't understand teh big deal...
Fapper:
Friendship to me is a BIG deal
AYHJA:
Why you have to break shit like that up into little pieces...
X3n:
I'll go as far as to say I might just give a shit about the forum's originator
Fapper:
and quite an intresting topic to discuss
X3n:
and this is where I step off...
AYHJA:
I don't consider either of you an enemy, why not a friend..? That don't mean that you have to come to my damn funeral, but we have talked quite a bit, if you're fond of someone, you are a friend to them....
Fapper:
we were talking with X just before you logged about that
AYHJA:
If either of you came to me in need, I would help you....
X3n:
I think the real problem here is that this asshole is actually outspoken about his..."social interests
Fapper:
and prolly i'd do the same
Fapper:
but thass not the point
X3n:
no, see?, THAT'S where I disagree...
X3n:
friendship to me is just a little bigger than that
X3n:
and it doesn't include a funeral visit
Fapper:
right
AYHJA:
Do tell..
X3n:
but do you think I could count on anyone in that forum, A?
X3n:
honestly?
Fapper:
let me add something X
AYHJA:
Honestly..?
X3n:
besides you, I mean?
X3n:
no, you shut the fuck up, I'm talking!!!!!
X3n:
understood?
Fapper:
i may need something and Trash might help, but is that friendship .... not yet
AYHJA:
ROTFL...Honestly, I can't say...The bright, sunny side of me says yes...
X3n:
I have a bright sunny side...that bright sunny side is simply pleased about having a family like I do...
X3n:
I don't think I have any friends around me, to tell you the truth...
Fapper:
ADVERTISING we're all a happy disfunktional family!!!!!
X3n:
I might have 2, maybe 3...and I never see them...they scattered all over the place
AYHJA:
I consider both of you friends...
AYHJA:
Limited only by distance...
X3n:
I think Fapps just doesn't care to play with others...
AYHJA:
I have leaned on X I know, and he has come through for me...
AYHJA:
That is what friends do...
X3n:
I have no need to rain on the ADN Davidian compound...so I see no need to bark about not caring about anyone...
X3n:
but I think folks get the message that...I kinda don't
AYHJA:
Yeah Fap...You don't behave like a friend, and then when it comes down to it, try and break my shit up into little pieces...
Fapper:
sorry can you re-explain that last one?
X3n:
and I really don't care either way...as I'm CERTAIN they don't care about me
X3n:
I'm CERTAIN of it
AYHJA:
I wouldn't say that X...
X3n:
I can
Fapper:
Ayhja: "You don't behave like a friend, and then when it comes down to it, try and break my shit up into little pieces..." =?
AYHJA:
Like I said, maybe I just got this jaded view...But I'd rather let people start at teh top, and either stay there or slowly work their way down...
AYHJA:
OK Fap...
X3n:
apart from you, I mean...."Rainbow Brite"
AYHJA:
If I say, "Fapper, I need help with this programming project, can you please help me..?"
AYHJA:
And you help me, I consider you a friend...
Fapper:
OK, Ayhja now i officially dissagree with you
AYHJA:
If you come to me, and want to talk about something personal, then we are friends...
X3n:
wow...that's easy
AYHJA:
I mean, what is there to disagree with..?
AYHJA:
You don't just walk up to people you don't know and start doing that kind of shit, do you..? We are not strangers...
AYHJA:
We have talked EXTENSIVELY...
Fapper:
corse we are not strangers, m8
AYHJA:
If I didn't like you, or didn't consider you a friend, I wouldn't be fuckin' with you...
AYHJA:
I'm just full of love, and until someone gives me a reason not to call them friend, then that's what I do...
Fapper:
well i've proved i'm not like that, i think
X3n:
like Bobby Brown and Britney right after...that's your perrogative
X3n:
see...the only disruption is Fapper posting it...
AYHJA:
I don't see the difference Fap, I'm sorry...
X3n:
but I'm sure a lot of katz might feel the same way, AYHJA
X3n:
he just posted it...
Fapper:
What are you based to say we are Friends Ayhja, just the fact i've not stolen you lunch box?
AYHJA:
I just told you that...
X3n:
again...questionable forum etiquette...but honest nonetheless
AYHJA:
We have dialogue, I care about your well being, you are not my enemy, and I feel that I can depend on you if need be, and I want to help you if you need help...
X3n:
you sure you can "depend"on Fercho, A?
AYHJA:
I wouldn't ask you how you were doing, if I didn't care...
X3n:
you SURE about that?
Fapper:
ok, and basically you feel the same about every other one in the forum?
AYHJA:
You gotta realize though Fap, I have talked with many of the people in teh forum....
AYHJA:
Extensively...
Fapper:
yeah, but i not claiming for exclusives
AYHJA:
If something were to happen to you, to either of you, I'd be concerned...
AYHJA:
I wouldn't be like, "Oh yeah, that dude Fapper died two weeks ago..."
X3n:
how do you think the otherts would feel?
Fapper:
but i got the same feeling for my co-workers but yet not friends
AYHJA:
I told you, everyone gets an A+ with me until they prove otherwise...
Fapper:
My friendship is more based in admiration rather than other thing.
AYHJA:
Like I said Fap, the difference between you and I is that I'm not so lucky in my acquaintences...Ra-El is my co-worker...And he just quit...
AYHJA:
Admiration..?
Fapper:
yeah but in a way i cant explain very accurate in english
Fapper:
let's see how can i put it
X3n:
I can dig that...I usually look up to my friends...and just "hang"with the rest
Fapper:
?
AYHJA:
Man, if we hangin' we friends...
AYHJA:
I trust friends...
X3n:
good for you...not so for me
Fapper:
AYHJA can you accept that some of us people dont think that way?
X3n:
apparently...not so for "honey pot"over here
Fapper:
And i think it's cultural
AYHJA:
Maybe we are involved in semantic wars...
AYHJA:
Someone that I'm REALLY close to, and look out for, I might not just call friend...I might say, "That's my boy for real," or something like that...
Fapper:
though you can come to South America and be treated like a friend by anyone (though you are not his/her friend)
AYHJA:
I am with the dictionary...A friend to me is someone non hostile...
X3n:
"your boy" is "my friend" in my dictionary...someone non-hostile is an "aquaintance"
X3n:
this is true...
X3n:
South America might feel surprisingly 'homey' to you, treatment-wise
X3n:
except for the little racism issue...but that's another convo
AYHJA:
Maybe it would be easier to do it this way...No bullshit allowed...
Fapper:
As i say "you can come to South America and be treated like a friend by anyone (though you are not his/her friend)"
AYHJA:
Fapper, why don't you consider me a friend..? Say the shit in Spanish if you have to, x will iron it out for me...
X3n:
wow...this is an obsession for you, huh?
Fapper:
That i said it already in english
X3n:
I thought it was pretty clear in English, actually
Fapper:
I don't consider myself a friend of yours, cause i auto-evaluate myself with a lack of merits yet for that, did you understand me?
X3n:
A, I think you might be upset because Fercho just happens to be outspoken about his attachment to the forum members
X3n:
I really think a lot of members might feel the same way...at least about us two
X3n:
Fercho, for sure...but I don't think I have a huge fan club either
Fapper:
AYHJA trolling apart, realize that i dont feel i'm your friend not because you are evil, in fact i've respect you admire you and apreciate you .... so till i dont feel i'm dign to be a friend of yours i'm not your friend
X3n:
and that's not even what we're talking about anymore...don't know why I keep bringing it up
Fapper:
ok?
X3n:
so...there it is...
Fapper:
AYHJA did you get it? YES/NO
AYHJA:
I'm trying to understand...
Fapper:
X did you?
X3n:
I can almost hear your tone getting progressively lower
AYHJA:
"wow...this is an obsession for you, huh?" LoL...
X3n:
I understood your point since you posted
AYHJA:
No, I just like clarity...I want to understand...
Fapper:
Now let me tell you that if some acted like i do about friendship i'd be flattered
Fapper:
it might sound just another provocative trolling coming from me but ...
AYHJA:
I mean, I take my friendship seriously, if that's what is being contested...
X3n:
I don't think the topic has been discussed in the forum...might as well start it, A...
AYHJA:
Like I said, if I didn't consider you a friend on all levels, I just wouldn't fuck with you...You'd get a wassup, and then a what do you want..,
AYHJA:
I already started teh thread, and I intend to be in it all day...
X3n:
if you want to understand people's POV's
AYHJA:
http://ayhja.net/Forum/viewtopic.php?t=1998
X3n:
well...there it is then...
Fapper:
Well if i didnt consider you an intresting person, i wouldnt be chatting right now about this
X3n:
that should clear a few things...
X3n:
of course...I don't expect clarity out of either of the christian Humptys
X3n:
but others might help you out with that, A
Fapper:
watch your words cause i'm gonna post this shit there
X3n:
don't know why you would post it...but I'm pretty comfortable in the fact that I'm not "most Likeable"in any ADN category
X3n:
so feel free to post
Fapper:
ok
X3n:
not that this discussion will help anymore than an actual post
Fapper:
yeah i agree with you
AYHJA:
But I don't see why you think peeps don't like you X...
AYHJA:
You post great news, and in that capacity, you are loved..
AYHJA:
Must a personal implication be made if the word friend is to be used then..?
X3n:
and THAT is where we truly disagree
Fapper:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Fapper:
X i understand you 100 percent
X3n:
and YES!!!!!! abso-fucking-LUTELY a personal implication HAS to be made, if the term "friend"is used
X3n:
I don't understand "friend"any other way
AYHJA:
Well, I think that when the pesonal aspect comes along, then we are "Close Friends"
Fapper:
forget the Fucking word and focus on the value of it, dictionary (an excellent tool btw) does not aplly here
AYHJA:
To someone that I'm close to, and have personal ties to, I don't call a friend, I call them something more than friend...
X3n:
I start subdivisions of "friend"to explain my stance, actually...
X3n:
but they don't mean that much to me
AYHJA:
Friend is a very, very basic concept to me...
Fapper:
Ayhja please listen ...
X3n:
and posting news in ADN has gotten me no closer to anyone's heart, I assure you
AYHJA:
For me to say someone is "My Nigga" is a greater implication than me saying someone is my friend...
AYHJA:
OK X, what about people that REALLY like ADN..? Lets consider the possibility that I'm not the only one that really likes the site...
X3n:
again...your "my nigga" is my "friend"
X3n:
...
AYHJA:
If you are a part of the site, and an important part of it, people view you as that...
X3n:
what does liking ADN have to do with my definition of freind?
Fapper:
Look Ayhja in certain context i could be your "friend" "your nigga" "m8" but in the concept of the word Friend not
AYHJA:
You said how people view you...
X3n:
*friend...I don't know what "Freind" means
AYHJA:
Like I said, I think we are running into a semantic thing, as I am starting to understand now...
Fapper:
X is not intresting in the way people of the forum percieves ammusement
AYHJA:
To me, a friend is somone that isn't an enemy...
AYHJA:
Simple and plain...
X3n:
point is I don't care...so IMO...I'm noone's "friend" in ADN
Fapper:
Ayhja, this could be solved if it was just a semantic discussion and well all end friends, but no it's not that simple
X3n:
well...from the beginning...it's been a matter of opinion and yes, semantics
AYHJA:
I think so...If you're gonna say you're not my friend, not because you don't like me, then I'm confused...
X3n:
you call all those you meet and act non-hostile, "a friend"
AYHJA:
Yes..
AYHJA:
If someone is "friendly" to you, that makes them a friend...
Fapper:
I disagree at that
X3n:
I and Fapper, on the other hand, regard "friendship"in a different way...
Fapper:
yes
X3n:
to the standards that you hold up to"your nigga"
AYHJA:
What I'm trying to figure though, is that beyond a doubt, I have similar attachments to people I know...
AYHJA:
I call them a term of endearment...
Fapper:
I apreciate the willing of conciliation X, But it goes further than that at least to me
AYHJA:
Friend, by nature, doesn't imply endearment...
AYHJA:
It is a generic term...
X3n:
like I said...I also use the term loosely...actually, to avoid this discussion...
Fapper:
regardless the word you use or the context, there's a different conception of achieving friendship beetween us Ayhja
X3n:
like using "love" which in Spanish, you can't really get away with that
Fapper:
i'm tempted for a disgression about the use of "love" in spanish but that would be another day
AYHJA:
I wouldn't just call X my friend, we've talked on all kinds of levels for at least 14 months...I look out for him as best I can, and I feel that he does the same for me as best as possible given the circumstance...I feel that I can, and do, talk to him about shit that's on my mind that I have never told anyone else..
X3n:
sure
AYHJA:
To me, Fapper, friendship isn't achieved, it is maintained...
Fapper:
Ayhja do you understand that i think of friendship, nigganess in a diffrnt way than yours?
AYHJA:
ROTFL @ nigganess.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
X3n:
so admittedly...our relationship is a bit stronger than most of the other members, correct?
AYHJA:
SANTA MIERDA you just pulled a word so far outta your ass I can see your intestine..!!!
AYHJA:
No doubt X..!
Fapper:
But is not based because we talk everyday
AYHJA:
But I don't consider you a friend, as once shit hits another level, the word friend don't do the relationship justices...
X3n:
nigganess is OFFICIALLY a bad-ass term and I vote for the immediate induction into ADN vocab
Fapper:
is because i find you intresting and one day i may consider myself your friend
AYHJA:
CDRLMAORMA...!!!
X3n:
sorry for the interruption of this flow...
X3n:
carry on
AYHJA:
I REALLY want to understand that Fapper, I really do...Cause that's not coming clear to me...
Fapper:
As i said: But is not based because we talk everyday But is not based because we talk everyday
AYHJA:
???
X3n:
I think the thread will do everybody some good
X3n:
not me, I'm pretty clear on my stance
Fapper:
we have a special relation but is not based because we talk everyday But is not based because we talk everyday
AYHJA:
A favored companion...
X3n:
a statement so...something, it had to be said twice
Fapper:
is because i find you intresting and one day i may consider myself your friend
AYHJA:
Find me interesting..?
Fapper:
yeah
AYHJA:
What does that mean..? See, DeepDiver has just said the same thing I said..
Fapper:
but before answering and making a joke that would end any chance of future nigganess did you understand how i acomplisshe nigganess?
AYHJA:
No doubt...
AYHJA:
I understand now, we were just butting heads on the use of the words...
Fapper:
OK
AYHJA:
Nigganess is what's up...
Fapper:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Fapper:
it's not about words, that's one thing but not at all my concept
AYHJA:
It's not..?
Fapper:
no
AYHJA:
At any rate, I think I understand the fact that you feel some form of endearment is involved w/the word friend in your use and culture...
AYHJA:
I can feel that...
AYHJA:
And I agree...
AYHJA:
I have a ton of friends, my my niggas are far and few...
X3n:
actually...a pretty strong form of endearment HAS to be present for the term "friend"to apply
Fapper:
I'm not your friend cause you say i'm your friend, i'll be your friend when i'll feel that my merits are at the same level of the high apreciation i have for you. nothing to do with the word used
X3n:
a moment of clarity for our very bipolar friend...how this convo has grown
AYHJA:
So....
X3n:
so...I'm off to lunch
Fapper:
ok
AYHJA:
Bascially, you feel you need to earn the right for you to be my friend...
AYHJA:
OK X, please don't stuff your damn face again...
Fapper:
yeah but i'll never ask you to certify i'm your friend, cause i wont need it
X3n:
you can't tell me what to do...kind of a friend ARE you?
X3n:
jeeeez
Fapper:
See what at the beggining might look as a "dont care" acting is quite the opposite
Fapper:
is an "xs" of respect for the other one (In the Case of X and you)
Fapper:
Ayhja are you getting it?
AYHJA:
I'm trying Homez...

#4

I got words I use sparingly, but a friend is someone of good-natured and semi-regular acquaintance, and in general people are friendly to me.

vertical,
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#5

It's pretty easy to be considered a friend by me. Like DD said, I treat others the way I want to be treated (except for those few jackasses).

When you spend a lot of time together, even if it's online, hopefully you'll call those people friends

#6

Aquaintance is someone I just meet and/or "shoot the shit" with...and I could break a lot of relationships into "I know him", or "buddy", or all other variations of "my man", or "my nigga", but I personally consider friendship a priviledge, and for me to be called your friend, I must first earn that title. I use the term loosely just to avoid this discussion everytime I talk to someone.

#7

i knew there wud be a spin off topic about friends ....

It doesnt matter if you talk to someone online or in person, if u enjoy talking to them without having the feeling of knocking their heads off their heads and care even a little bit they are a friend. Its a simple concept there is no need to complicate things and those that do i personally belive have a fear of getting hurt or have trust issues or some issues that cannot be resolved easily.

Fapper man for one things im pretty young and i mite be very niave but i do belive that being friends is about being there to talk to each other no matter what it mayb about whether wat u want to wear or wat ayhja wore or if u are having some issues u dont have to be there always but just be able to talk easily had care just a lil bit