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Those are the heavens, now what of the palaces..?

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each of the 10 palaces was erected in honor of one of the 10 sons of Israel that are commemorated as his sons, (the other two are not his sons, paternally, they are his grandsons, remember?) and on each of the 10 commandments.

Each of these contains one of the names of God, and one of the powers Man was given by His Creator. I am, as are all, forbidden to reveal all of these, lest The Lord command they be revealed by me.

4 letter name - used to gain access to the Hekel Araboth
12 letter name - used to enlighten and confort the soul
22 letter name - used to gain favour of the Angelic intelligences and the Wisdom of that favour

23 letter name - used to command the Seraphim as the Voice and establish Divine Providence in your dealings

26 letter name - used to exhalt the higher aspects, and radiate them forth in the world of Men
33 letter name - used to Open the Veil of Mahon, and Intiate the Aspirant to the Mysteries of Creation.
42 letter name - used to witness the mysteries of Creation
72 letter name - used to refine or "Redeem the Demonic" and to "quiet the howling of the possessed"

216 letter name - used to "rebirth" the dead, and cause them to speak



These names are all in many ways encoded in the original Sepher Ha Torah, and no where found in the English.
The key is not the name, but rather the mathematics thereof, where you can substitute many sets of letters, often to different effects.

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Reveal to me the rest next you meditate... /wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />

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*holds out a candy bar* c'mon raum..c'mon...

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thanks for that, it was very confusing but interesting...i always thought there was just one big place..hmm..

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......7. Hekel Araboth, the Holy of Holies. This is the Qadosh Qadosh. It is the Highest Octave of Existence in which all that exists is immortal. Hence the Name †™ ¢‚¬„¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¢†™‚¢‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦‚¡¢‚¬Å¡‚¬†™¢¢¬‚¦‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦¢‚¬Å“YHVH.†™ ¢‚¬„¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¢†™‚¢‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦‚¡¢‚¬Å¡‚¬? For the purposes of mankind in its self aware aspects, the most important function of this Hekel Mashaim, is in its emanations to the first Palace of Atziluth, the lowest aspect of the Divine Merkhaba, or Chariot. Araboth contains uncreated objects and is the permanent residence of the seed atom and the first light. It is best equated to the stage of †™ ¢‚¬„¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¢†™‚¢‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦‚¡¢‚¬Å¡‚¬†™¢¢¬‚¦‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦¢‚¬Å“Let there be†™ ¢‚¬„¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¢†™‚¢‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦‚¡¢‚¬Å¡‚¬? where nothing is yet, but which all must pass through. Many hold this stage is not achievable by man. My argument is when you achieve this state, you are no longer a man. This is the plane of the Greatest Inner Mystery which is described, at the same time, as the Sea of Glass and the Lake of Fire......



If that's the case, then how were these observations made? Someone must have been there to take notes, and pass them on.....

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I"m sure that anyone accomplished enough to achieve such a feat would hardly want to share it with a bunch of people who wouldn't do half of what it takes to get there...

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^^ Why?

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good point, Pete.

if the Truth of this Mystery is the inherent birthright of every member of humanity, then why should the one who achieves it not just give it to the rest. The simple reason is that the only means by which a human can recieve that message is through direct reception from the source. It is not that "I am forbidden to tell you" it is that "I can not communicate it in a way that will give you the complete picture you can only really get when it is right in front of you."

i.e "words, pictures, whispers, and secret handshakes just don't do it justice."

this model is completely and utterly integrated for personal experience, and there are markers along the way.

the ultimate goal is different, based on two philosophies. let's call them A and B.

A. The Philosophy of A is that Hekel Araboth can be achieved by man through a full integration of the psyche back the template of the design of human consciousness: that self-awareness of the Godhead. Through expansion of the mind beyond the boundaries of Space, Time, even Species, - ultimately all notions of self resolve themselves into a void - and yet within that void is what remains... an undying light that is the source of all creation. I have found no sane school of thought or practice that thinks this is a impossibility, if only in fleeting moments. This is the veiw of Chassidism, Pentacostals, Christian Science, and countless ecstatic denominations.

B. The Philosophy of B is that Hekel Makon is the highest state that can be achieved, and at best one could hope to be able to become a complete adherent of the Law. What the persians called a Magun. This maintains that human consciousness can never truly be integrated into the Godhead, and thus a person has no chance of entering Hekel Araboth, for it is a state sacred only to God, and it was the source of all evil that Lucifer sought to enter that state. This is the philosohy of Protestantism, Orthodox Christianity, Roman Catholicism (after Pope Clement V was instated after the disposing of Pope Honorius II), and Gnostic Christianity, The Masons.

Finally, come the Philosophy of C, which is that the majority of people will not do so, but there are those rare individuals who CAN achieve Hekel Araboth, and (ideally) do so on behalf of all humanity. And they simply exist spiritually in higher levels of comprehension of the celestial architecture of the universe. These persons (ideally) are meant to provide protection and safe passage to the Hekel Zebhul for all who seek to journey there, to the Jerusalem that Jeshua truly spoke of. This is the philosophy of Gnostic Catholism, Ecclesiastics, the Poor Order of the Knights of the Temple, the Free and accepted Masons, the Essenes, and my own.

I could extend these philosphies outside of the wide wide world of Judeo-Christianity, but it would be superfluous to do so, as most people here only get confuzzled when I do so, and I find no reason or need to.

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Exactly what I'm thinking, I would feel that way about many things much less exacerbating the path of enlightenment by telling them what its like to finally reach the source...I would want to be guided, but ultimately I would feel the journey is my own, so that I could properly embrace whatever is in front of me...Kinda like Neo, and his path to be 'The One" you know..? Everyone told kid he was all poweful in the Matrix, he knew all the prophecies and what not, but still did not find the answers until he himself experienced them....I can't imagine wanting to be told such a thing...

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Thank you for answering this, Charles.


QUOTE(raum)good point, Pete.

if the Truth of this Mystery is the inherent birthright of every member of humanity, then why should the one who achieves it not just give it to the rest.  The simple reason is that the only means by which a human can recieve that message is through direct reception from the source.  It is not that "I am forbidden to tell you" it is that "I can not communicate it in a way that will give you the complete picture you can only really get when it is right in front of you."

i.e "words, pictures, whispers, and secret handshakes just don't do it justice."

this model is completely and utterly integrated for personal experience, and there are markers along the way.

I am grateful to read that. It makes sense, and disproves the "holier than thou" attitude thing (which is why I am grateful to read it).


Oh, I before E except after C..... /wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" /> /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":P" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />


QUOTE(raum)the ultimate goal is different, based on two philosophies.  let's call them A and B.

What about C?

QUOTE(raum)A.  The Philosophy of A is that Hekel Araboth can be achieved by man through a full integration of the psyche back the template of the design of human consciousness:  that self-awareness of the Godhead.  Through expansion of the mind beyond the boundaries of Space, Time, even Species, - ultimately all notions of self resolve themselves into a void - and yet within that void is what remains... an undying light that is the source of all creation.  I have found no sane school of thought or practice that thinks this is a impossibility, if only in fleeting moments.  This is the vieiw of Chassidism, Pentacostals, Christian Science, and countless ecstatic denominations.

In other words- meditation is the road, in that philosophy.

Ecstatic- good way to describe those wierdo cults... Christian Scientists bug me, and those Holosync folks.....



QUOTE(raum)B. The Philosophy of B is that Hekel Makon is the highest state that can be achieved, and at best one could hope to be able to become a complete adherent of the Law.  What the persians called a Magun.  This maintains that human consciousness can never truly be integrated into the Godhead, and thus a person has no chance of entering Hekel Araboth, for it is a state sacred only to God, and it was the source of all evil that Lucifer sought to enter that state.  This is the philosohy of Protestantism, Orthodox Christianity, Roman Catholicism (after Pope Clement V was instated after the disposing of Pope Honorius II), and Gnostic Christianity, The Masons.

I realise that philosophy existing in Orthodox Christianity. In their church, only the priest is allowed to stand right in front of the alter- NO ONE may enter that spot. All others must pass the alter on the opposite side. That is to symbolise this "B" philosophy.

And one day I got blasted because, while talking off my churchboy robe, over my head and my vision obstructed, I crossed that very spot, in sight of the whole congregation!..........


QUOTE(raum)Finally, come the Philosophy of C, which is that the majority of people will not do so, but there are those rare individuals who CAN achieve Hekel Araboth, and (ideally) do so on behalf of all humanity.  And they simply exist spiritually in higher levels of comprehension of the celestial architecture of the universe.  These persons (ideally) are meant to provide protection and safe passage to the Hekel Zebhul for all who seek to journey there, to the Jerusalem that Jeshua truly spoke of.  This is the philosophy of Gnostic Catholism, Ecclesiastics, the Poor Order of the Knights of the Temple, the Free and accepted Masons, the Essenes, and my own.


Of course it would be........ /wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />

Hey you can be my tour guide any time.. (okay sorry that was out of line...)


QUOTE(raum)I could extend these philosphies outside of the wide wide world of Judeo-Christianity, but it would be superfluous to do so, as most people here only get confuzzled when I do so, and I find no reason or need to.

Wouldn't my reason good enough? Nah, it's okay mate.

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