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Blacks voting for McCain aren't sell-outs or anomalies.
They're misinformed or ignorant. That's all it is.
No biggie. See!, problem solved. :)

raum wrote:In one thread you come up and say you don't know much or care much for politics, and then you criticize them because you precieve the same of them?

Yeah, I don't quite get what you mean, but you hit the nail on the head...Let me clarify my distaste for what I call politics with a quick question...

How can you vote on issues...If you vote on values..?

Value - the ideals, customs, institutions, etc., of a society toward which the people of the group have an affective regard.

aka 'Partisan'...

This word "Partisan" I don't think it means what you think it means. I know you said you got confused by the notions of Liberal and Conservative recently, so...

Here is the REAL scoop. simple and brief.

These men are Conservative. They believe in not everstating assets in excess pursuit of unproven ideals. They seem to believe in a Democratic Republic of Constitutional Union.
For one's means, according to their means and ability and opportunity, which should not be infringed, according the the execution of Legislation of Civil Rights and Liberty.

Obama is a Liberal. He believes in overstating assets in anticipation of projected gains projecting gains in tax revenues and increased financial burdens on levied tariffs. He seems to believe in promoting a form of consensual Capital Marxism called Social Democracy; which is a modern progressive form of National Socialism. It is not a total Communism, as there is still a facist upperclass based on education and position of reknown.
For the collective means, according the distribution of the collective wealth and mandated assignments, which shall be enforced by the execution of Legislation of Civil Duty and Justice.

If you believe in Obama's plan, whether Republican, Democratic, or Independent: you are in support of an agenda of progressive National Socialism. That means you think what the Nazis tried to do was OK until the part about the ghettos and Death Camps. That is what Social Democracy is, and where its roots come from: German Philosphers who came to America because Hitler became a monster. None have been able to actually state how else his plan could have come about without the Final Solution of social conditioning of the unstated masses that embodied Hitler's undocumented population of non-citizens; the Jews.

None of Obama's plans account for the millions of undocumented non-citizens.
What will be his Final Solution? His whole platform is ultimately going to have to concede to what we know about progressive governments. They have to expand or they have to reduce their constituents. I want to hear about how he is going to do that.

Dude, did you just compare Obama to the fucking Nazi's...?!?!?

And I over simplify things...?!? Good grief...What CDR...Your definition of liberal, well...Another CDR....

Kumicho wrote:Dude, did you just compare Obama to the fucking Nazi's...?!?!?

And I over simplify things...?!? Good grief...What CDR...Your definition of liberal, well...Another CDR....

Look. Very simple - small words.

National Socialism led to Social Democracy. National Socialism was popular in America.

All Socialism is not supportive of Imperialism or Genocide. This was Hitler's way to resolve the fact that Socialism, which is not all bad in ideal, NEVER adds up. I am not saying WHAT Obama will do when his plan doesn't add up. I want him to tell me.

Not all National Socialists in Germany (Nazi) agreed with the Final Solution, btw. A good number defected when they found out how Hitler's atrocities were enacted.

The problem with Hitler's Germany is even worse in America. too many undocumented peoples that will break any budget with socially progressive ideals.

Like the GOP can keep a budget. Don't make me laugh yet again.

Jig-A-Meister wrote:Like the GOP can keep a budget. Don't make me laugh yet again.

I am not, nor have I ever been a member of the GOP. We can not balance the budget before returning the proper function of government as a minor expense in the lives of Americans and the INCIDENTAL role of social support. GOP in a large way abandoned conservatism in hopes of catering to a vote that would never be theirs with their own views.

They did this as part of Reaganomics which was the first key transition to a culture of entitlement that makes their party incompatible with my own political conviction. The War on Drugs was a precedent for disaster and a veil that I am not ignorant of. I was not old enough to vote then.

My point is this: GOVERNMENT can not be a charity. It is an expense that governs itself.