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QUOTE(raum)as man's understanding of his origins and being become sophisticated, so do the mechanations of his deity.
isn't that just the truth. thanks for the read raum, it's always an education going over your posts.

btw i got the rom/raum thing right off the bat, which must make me more of a trek fan than i'd hoped. damn!

QUOTE(raum)btw:  as a fellow vet, I say thank you for your service.  (and feel as uncomfortable as you do now when people thank me for my service)

I never knew you were in the army................

I was in the Navy, and then in VBSS, and then in STAR, neither of which is specifically in the dept of the Navy, but is composed of marines and sailors.

manily because there are places we aren't supposed to go, and you aren't supposed to know about. let's just say, for my duty, I did not even get a phone call or letter to or from my family.

MY mom, after two years, of trying finally got clearance from the Rear Admiral in charge of the Pacific Fleet (ComLogGru1) to recieve notice I was not dead, but they would not even tell her the last time I was stateside. Finally, in 1997, I got to talk to my mom, and she and I have been closer than ever. She kept talking about letters I never got. Finally, in 200-, my statue dropped, and when I showed her some of my papers, she turned white, and said her nerves aren't stable enough to see that close a look at what really goes on, or what a person is truly capable of.

Most people are not willing or wanting to see what really goes on. Most people are happy thinking what they see on CNN or MSNBC is reality. People are cows... they will go and do what you lead them to.

QUOTE(ruffriders23)Most people are not willing or wanting to see what really goes on. Most people are happy thinking what they see on CNN or MSNBC is reality. People are cows... they will go and do what you lead them to.

I don't. I'm not a sheep.

QUOTE(raum)I was in the Navy, and then in VBSS, and then in STAR,  neither of which is specifically in the dept of the Navy, but is composed of marines and sailors.

Why did you join the Navy? (and also this VBSS & STAR)?

Were you a sailor or a marine? And what exactly is a marine? Coastal soldiers?


QUOTE(raum)mainly because there are places we aren't supposed to go, and you aren't supposed to know about.  let's just say, for my duty, I did not even get a phone call or letter to or from my family.

Why did you go to places that you weren't supposed to? And why do those places have to be secret? Are you referring to me directly in the statement "you aren't supposed to know about"?

QUOTE(raum)MY mom, after two years, of trying finally got clearance from the Rear Admiral in charge of the Pacific Fleet (ComLogGru1) to receive notice I was not dead, but they would not even tell her the last time I was stateside.

Man that must have been terrible to go through /sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" /> /sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" /> /sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />

QUOTE(raum)Finally, in 1997, I got to talk to my mom, and she and I have been closer than ever.  She kept talking about letters I never got.  Finally, in 2000, my statue dropped, and when I showed her some of my papers, she turned white, and said her nerves aren't stable enough to see that close a look at what really goes on, or what a person is truly capable of.

What papers? Stuff like Longinus the Spearman? Or details of activities you carried out while in service? If so, what were those activities?

Pete... I was in Iraq before we had declaired war on them. I've been many places without official consent from congress. Wars happen every day and you will never know about 90% of them. You think every time a problem happens that it came from nowhere? That we had NOTHING to do with it? That we were taken by complete and total surpirse? Trust me... we knew. Try doing a little research on what the CIA did back in the 1930's in Iraq... that will blow your hair back.