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Re: Dirt and Dumping on Palin and McCain.

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 10:52 pm
by Sir Jig-A-Lot
badpowers wrote:One last note on McCain's lack of computer literacy...we've all seen people who can type around 30 words a minute just by using their index fingers, so the torture defence doesn't wash.
Indeed. Way I see it, It's as simple as this:
If You Can Pick Up A Knife & Fork To Eat, You Can Surely Type(In some capacity).

Re: Dirt and Dumping on Palin and McCain.

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 12:07 am
by AYHJA
All well said, BP...

And you have reiterated my point of the GOP acting like a fish out of water...Talk about Obama and his soaring rhetoric, your Palin quotes hit the nail on the head...In one sentence they say one thing, wait for an applause, and then say the exact opposite thing a few minutes later...

It's inexcusable...And again, like you said bp, it has nothing to do with a love affair of Obama, as much as it is I am certain McCain will be no different from Bush...And my ass hurtin' too bad to bank on that 10% chance of change, as Obama put it...Obama might not get in there and do shit, but that would put him and McCain on level ground to me...At this point, assuming it will get worse before it gets better, McCain would only pour salt on the wound...

In the year 2000, I was making 66% more money that I'm making right now...So basically, if I was making a whole dollar in 2000, I'm making $0.33 now...Even looking at in the negative light, Obama is the lesser of 2 evils...Look at that tax plan...If Obama even does a fraction of what he says he's going to do, I'll be able to go buy groceries w/o having to check my balance first...To even have AF costs double of what it costs just a few years ago...

I haven't heard anything but lies, half truths, and shit slinging from Johnny boy...

OK, now I'm digging...

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 12:39 am
by AYHJA
"My friends," here's what we can expect McCain to keep doing...

Breaking news, Putin is the President of Germany!



Also, Iraq borders Pakistan...Might wanna work on that geography before we start slamming the candidate...



John is asked about Afghanistan...But rambles on and on about Iraq...Notice that he's so busy trying to attack Obama, he doesn't even realize he didn't answer the question asked...


Re: Dirt and Dumping on Palin and McCain.

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 1:38 am
by Sir Jig-A-Lot
That was HEE-larious! And this guy wants to leader of the free world?. CDFR! :laff:

Re: Dirt and Dumping on Palin and McCain.

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 4:57 am
by raum
Orson Smelles wrote:Look,raum, Let's just agree to disagree on who we barrack for in this race. I knew of McCain years ago when men like Carter & Clinton used to praise this guy for his passionate beliefs & his willingness to cross the floor on certain issues. I believe that man has left the building in the last month or two. Johnny is now willing to win By Any Means Necessary , even if it means throwing out what he stood for for the longest time out of the Straight Talk Express window. I am NOT trying to make any converts here @ AF for Obama or anyone else. Just commenting or reporting what I've seen or been made aware of. I truly dig on your posts inside VU, but in Worldwide, you've come across as bordering on blind fervent fanaticism in defending 2 souless power-hungry monsters at this point in time. And I ain't saying Biden or Obama are as clean as whistles either. Don't play yourself,son. The way I believe McCain has played himself. I respect you too much.
Blind fervent fanaticism? Hell, if anyone thinks I sound fanatical about John Mccain, that is grounds for me to just pull out of this thread altogether. I don't back politicians, I back sound policies. I am a conservative federalist, and have been for most my adult life. CARD CARRYING INDEPENDENT.

I also don't rely on the "news" to tell me about politics. Congressional records are freely available and there are lots of government regulatory agencies I actually work with. i was actually hoping these "dumping" threads would keep firm the american tradition of political humour, and we would see some funny cartoons, images, and articles.

And personally, I am disappointed that it became a issue of favoritism and let's talk about how candidates are better or worse. But, so far, on both candidates i see alot of shit being slung. i just find it amusign that a group I hang out with in real life think i am a obama nut because i defend him against the media-fed misinformation that they nurture. and here, i am in danger of being seen as a McCain fanatic. The only thing both groups really seem to get is I am WAY against Biden in the executive branch of government.



I just want to be clear on this: If I post anything in these political threads from here on out (& even mostly before) , It ain't an answerback record or diatribe against you. Please do not take it as such,bro.

I just personally think homeboy has gone from Senatorial Class Act to Sloganeering Crack Addict. [/2cents][/quote]

Re: Dirt and Dumping on Palin and McCain.

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:22 am
by x3n
Jumping late on this one as well. Shit.

What is it that the average North American wants, finally?
Do you want to be a completely independent nation? separate and with no obligations to other countries? Keep in mind this negates the "empire" title. There are no expansion (except in war) and no interventionism.
Or, do you think the US can and should regain its rightful place as empire, with all the obligations this entails?
Always keep in mind these options affect everything internally. Your budget right now can't support much more stretching. China is already buying off debt and thus creating a situation you might not like. That is what happens when war doesn't go quite as planned and nothing has for a few years now. Democrats seem to be arguing for "making everything better" through "change" while these new Republicans think the answer is looking back to "small town values" as if that Norman Rockwell past held the answer to all present woes. Oil, foreign intervention and war...shit even I feel more Republican than these kats.

The Democrats want a badly needed change, but at what cost? is Bill Clinton's "America"® complete with extra saving, what the public really wants? Again, it will be lots of work and the results will probably be ones you've already seen.

Re: Dirt and Dumping on Palin and McCain.

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:16 pm
by raum
x3n wrote:Jumping late on this one as well. Shit.
late, but welcome!
What is it that the average North American wants, finally?
That is the gazillion dollar question... Who's average anymore?

I know what I want: To engage my life, my family, my community, my country, my search for knowledge and meaning, my citizenry on this planet, and my assets to fulfill my forefathers's dream of being free to enjoy Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness; which are rights I hold to be truthful and self-evident for any that would engage the struggle to achieve them, and defend them against all peril and tyranny.
(but I am a pretty old guard Conservative.)
Do you want to be a completely independent nation? separate and with no obligations to other countries? Keep in mind this negates the "empire" title. There are no expansion (except in war) and no interventionism.
Or, do you think the US can and should regain its rightful place as empire, with all the obligations this entails?
It doesn't negate the notions of expansion and intervention - it puts them in the proper context.
Always keep in mind these options affect everything internally. Your budget right now can't support much more stretching. China is already buying off debt and thus creating a situation you might not like. That is what happens when war doesn't go quite as planned and nothing has for a few years now.


We haven't faced war for some time now. War is real - this is bullshit. Selling debt to support people domestic and abroad had to stop. War is something the US citizen has no heart for anymore. If a journalist feels safe enough to go there with a microphone but not a weapon... If there are survivors who can stand and talk into a camera,.. it's not war. The UN has made armed global conflict socially acceptable, it happens everyday, and is just the way it is. They allow this because it prevents war. I don't like war, and really regret it when it occurs, but it is part of man's legacy. We must change or die.
Democrats seem to be arguing for "making everything better" through "change" while these new Republicans think the answer is looking back to "small town values" as if that Norman Rockwell past held the answer to all present woes. Oil, foreign intervention and war...shit even I feel more Republican than these kats.
The average Democrat is a liberal, if not a socialist. They seek a superintendent position over the citizenry and seek to . We have laws that protect people from THOUGHTS of others, for Chrissakes.

The average Republican is a liberal, who doesn't realize "NeoConservative" was a derogatory term adopted for Liberals abandoning their own party's tendency to overstate their assets to leverage control over the "welfare of the people."

Neither of these are particularly attractive to me... If I were to join a party, I'd probably join the Libertarian party.
The Democrats want a badly needed change, but at what cost? is Bill Clinton's "America"® complete with extra saving, what the public really wants? Again, it will be lots of work and the results will probably be ones you've already seen.
People still think Clinton somehow changed things in a way he didn't. He simply re-balanced the budget to a projected, but unrealized, surplus. It never came to be, and it really laid up some bad bad ground for some of the things that happened. In order to REALLY see the effect of a president, you have to look to the next terms, because alot of what they did in office hits the books in the next 10 years after their first term.

Re: Dirt and Dumping on Palin and McCain.

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:19 pm
by AYHJA
raum wrote:i just find it amusign that a group I hang out with in real life think i am a obama nut because i defend him against the media-fed misinformation that they nurture. and here, i am in danger of being seen as a McCain fanatic
As I like to say, 'You can't win for loosing!" :p

I'm not sure if I'd say fanatical, more than just presenting an alternate take...I personally like to have my thinking challenged, even though I wouldn't really say that I'm defending a particular view...You don't go from not giving a damn to giving a damn overnight, truth be told, when weighed, I probably still couldn't give a rats ass, I'm probably leaving the country either way...

But still, I must admit, politics are more interesting that I gave them credit for...I like listening to them talk shit about each other, and watching them get caught up in lies and what not...Like I said, they're all slick as glass anyway...
x3n wrote:What is it that the average North American wants, finally?
Ti scriverò dalle spiagge di Taranto, amico mio...

Re: Dirt and Dumping on Palin and McCain.

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 4:12 pm
by raum
You moving to Italy? (or am I way off base? habla no jibberish :P)

Re: Dirt and Dumping on Palin and McCain.

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:30 pm
by AYHJA
LoL...I'll send you a postcard and a slice of pizza...

Now, back to our scheduled program...

John and Cindy McCain 'own 13 cars'

Barack Obama has hit back against charges of elitism by attacking his Republican opponent John McCain for owning 13 cars, many of them foreign brands.

It is the second time that Mr McCain's wealth, which is almost entirely derived from his wife, has become a campaign issue. In July he revealed that he did not know how many properties the couple owned. The answer was seven.

After Mr Obama made a remark about rural voters clinging to guns and religion in bad times, Mr McCain's campaign and his supporters have tried to portray the Democrat as an aloof liberal unfamiliar with ordinary people's priorities.

By contrast, Mr Obama and his wife Michelle own a single car: an environmentally friendly 2008 Ford Escape hybrid.

John and Cindy McCain's cars:

Cadillac CTS made by General Motors (US)
Volkswagen convertible (Germany)
Honda sedan (Japan)
Half-ton Ford pickup truck (US)
Willys Jeep (US)
Jeep Wrangler (US)
Lincoln (US)
GMC SUV (US)
Three NEV Gem electric vehicles - bubble-shaped cars popular in retirement communities (US)
Lexus - registered to Cindy McCain's family's beer business with MS BUD number plate (Japan)
Toyota Prius bought for daughter Meghan (Japan)

Source: http://snipurl.com/3stt2 [www_telegraph_co_uk]

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