The Mind and Brain
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trashtalkr
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We were having a discussion in my philosophy class today about the mind and the brain. Do you think the mind and the brain are the same thing? Is there an identity between them? We were discussing Leibniz's Metaphysics if that helps any of you with the discussion.
"If there were no eternal consciousness in a man, if at the bottom of everything there were only a wild ferment, a power that twisting in dark passions produced everything great or inconsequential; if an unfathomable insatiable emptiness lay hid beneath everything, what would life be but despair?"
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I view the mind as another term for reason. we process info with our brains, but think ABOUT things with our mind. C.S. Lewis actually feels that reason proves supernature. i think he would claim it is much like our understanding of the mind as well.
what did you talk about in class nick?
what did you talk about in class nick?
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like with what A said....I'm with him...
the brain uses a calculator....the mind uses a notepad and a pen..
scientific/poetic...
thought processes/feelings.
the brain uses a calculator....the mind uses a notepad and a pen..
scientific/poetic...
thought processes/feelings.
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In class we talked about said that the mind and the brain is separate based on the law of identities. It isn't the case where the mind and the brain has the exact same characteristics and properties hence they cannot be identical.
We then talked about whether the mind thinks with ideas or thinks of ideas. We discussed John Locke on this one where he says that ideas are the object of thinking
We then talked about whether the mind thinks with ideas or thinks of ideas. We discussed John Locke on this one where he says that ideas are the object of thinking
"If there were no eternal consciousness in a man, if at the bottom of everything there were only a wild ferment, a power that twisting in dark passions produced everything great or inconsequential; if an unfathomable insatiable emptiness lay hid beneath everything, what would life be but despair?"
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Kinda like in health 'Signs and Symptoms' everyone assumes it is (or means) the same thing but their not.
It like A's desription- spot on.
It like A's desription- spot on.
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The brain to me represents the subconscious, and the mind the conscious...I want to say, but can't really explain it right now, I do think they are the same thing...I think they have the same functions, but feel that they are used differently...But each has the same tool set and capabilities...
The brain is to the mind, like you are to your computer, if that makes any sense...What controls your mind you process with your brain, and vice versa...Wow, my analogies are way off, I'm gonna have to approach this in the morning when I have my first java, lol...
The brain is to the mind, like you are to your computer, if that makes any sense...What controls your mind you process with your brain, and vice versa...Wow, my analogies are way off, I'm gonna have to approach this in the morning when I have my first java, lol...
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the brain is the physical organ. Braegn is the Pan germanic word for Skull. The entire world of Midgard was created in the Baregn of the Giant Ymir.
the mind is derived from "munih" the sanskrit word for the phenomenon of God looking at the world through the eyes of the man who is in a yogic state of unity with the divine. From there is developed the notion of "Mugin" a showing of things past. This is why is it said Odin has two ravens on his shoulders "Hugin" (Thoughts of the Future), and Mugin (Thoughts of the Past). And when a skald (runic bard) divines his messages for the Runes, he is envisioning those same two ravens on his shoulders, helping him espy the Wyrd (Msyteries) that Odin learn haging from the World Tree Yggdraisil.
Read the Havamal, it can teach you alot of the Western approach to mind and brain centric philosophy, at its Pan-Germanic origins. These thoughts are reflected in such late works as Kant, Wittgenstein, and Heidegger. It's quite uncanny how much so, being that I have no reason to believe they well acquainted with Pan-Germanic texts or concepts.
the mind is derived from "munih" the sanskrit word for the phenomenon of God looking at the world through the eyes of the man who is in a yogic state of unity with the divine. From there is developed the notion of "Mugin" a showing of things past. This is why is it said Odin has two ravens on his shoulders "Hugin" (Thoughts of the Future), and Mugin (Thoughts of the Past). And when a skald (runic bard) divines his messages for the Runes, he is envisioning those same two ravens on his shoulders, helping him espy the Wyrd (Msyteries) that Odin learn haging from the World Tree Yggdraisil.
Read the Havamal, it can teach you alot of the Western approach to mind and brain centric philosophy, at its Pan-Germanic origins. These thoughts are reflected in such late works as Kant, Wittgenstein, and Heidegger. It's quite uncanny how much so, being that I have no reason to believe they well acquainted with Pan-Germanic texts or concepts.
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