QUOTE(Genesis 3-5) And God said, \"Let there be light\"; and there was light. 4 And God saw that the light was good; and God separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day.
QUOTE(Genesis 13-19)13 And there was evening and there was morning, a third day. 14 And God said, \"Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to separate the day from the night; and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the firmament of the heavens to give light upon the earth.\" And it was so. 16 And God made the two great lights, the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night; he made the stars also. 17 And God set them in the firmament of the heavens to give light upon the earth, 18 to rule over the day and over the night, and to separate the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening and there was morning, a fourth day.
What's wrong w/this picture besides the obvious...? Mistraslated..? Knowing the history of the bible, I'm inclined to think one thing...But I love spirited discussions...
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star of wonder, star of light, star of royal beauty bright..
the first is speaking of "Light" and the "Void of Darkness" (Outer Space), the second is speaking of "the sun, the moon, and the stars"- called the "Luminaries" which fill that void.
Here is the way it goes, take note of the pattern...
1. Light dividing Darkness of the void.
2. Sky, Firmament of Heaven, and Oceans
3. Land, Vegetation, and the Division of the Continents
4. Luminaries (to fill the Darkness of the void)
5. Fish and Fowl (to fill the Sky and the Ocean)
6. beast and Man (to fill the Land and the Earth)
7. Rest
The 4,5,&6th days are a different *living* "octave" of the 1,2,and3rd.
see?
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Here is the way it goes, take note of the pattern...
1. Light dividing Darkness of the void.
2. Sky, Firmament of Heaven, and Oceans
3. Land, Vegetation, and the Division of the Continents
4. Luminaries (to fill the Darkness of the void)
5. Fish and Fowl (to fill the Sky and the Ocean)
6. beast and Man (to fill the Land and the Earth)
7. Rest
The 4,5,&6th days are a different *living* "octave" of the 1,2,and3rd.
see?
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Hmm...
When you get the time, please elaborate on that a little more...Maybe I am just thinking too hard in this instance...
When you get the time, please elaborate on that a little more...Maybe I am just thinking too hard in this instance...
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That was very good on how you put in raum...I would also like you to elaborate on it
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clarity
I'm saying the sequence of 7 is apparent, but the sequence of the relation between the sets 1&4, 2&5, and 3&6 is appearent because it sets mvement in motion.
The ambiguous and limitless "light" becomes the sun, moon, and the stars, in their cosmic dance in the skys overhead (the ancients knew these stars were not in motion, which is why they are called the "Fixed Luminaries" the "movement of the planets is an internal process, and the Zohar says as much, to those who bother to read. Still it was evocative as an image, and still is.
The Warm and cool jets of the atmosphere, and the precipitation forming the Waters, as the elements Hydrogen and Oxygen form in their proportions, suddenly filled with all manner of bird, and fish and flying and swimming thing.
The Land, grown to its fertility, impregnated with the very intent of God to begat humanity, which will always have the source of his toil underfoot and beyond the surface.
These are not days as you know them. The seven days of creation are a means by which a initiate, fasting and meditating for seven days can be made ready to enter into the Tabernacle, to personally be exposed to the energies of the Ark of the Covenant within the Holy of Holies, solidifying the covenent with YHVH Ha-Olam, the Lord of the Universe (or the Lord of All Worlds).
The different octaves so to speak, are that of such
Light (Fire,funny that)
Air and Water
Earth
Bodies of Light
Bodies within Air and Water
Bodies within and upon the Earth
this is clearly Elemental. And shows the exact Elemental "sequence" of the Hermetic Magick Tradition.
Also, the Connections are thus,
Fire equals Shin (Sh) Alchemical Sulphur
Air and Water are respectively Aleph and Mem - Mercury and Salt
Earth is the "union of Fire, Water, and Air, and correlates to Tau, the Cross, and the Stone of the Philosopher.
Shin is Spirit, and the Element of Fire, and the Y in YHVH, the Father.
The letters Aleph and Mem for the word AM which means "Mother" in Hebrew, and this is the HV, in YHVH. The V reveals her as the Mother, for she is impregnated by the father, with the child (the V.)
The Last H in YHVH is the same force as the mother, albeit as yet virginal, for it is not impregnated with the Vau (this is the physical human before being inspired, and self-sacrificing and being redeemed by the child, V)
She is pregnant with the (V) of the Son who will inherit the throne of his father.
Anyone who knows the "story" of the birth of ?Jesus is probably slapping their forehead at how obvious THAT symbolism is suddenly. It is clear that "God" (the Y) sends for Mary, (the final H), so she can bear his child (HV) that ?Jesus, the anointed king of kings, may be born (V).
The funny thing is, it is actually the story of Jacob(Israel) and Rebecca finally being given Joseph (father of Benjamin and Ephraim) and well predates the entire New Testament, and in fact the entire Messianic Tradition.
Great story that immaculate conception, but keep in mind, no one who wrote that was around at the time. Plain and simple, no one who has a book in the Bible has any first hand experience of the "birth of the immaculate conception" and neither is it even worth a simple mention by the ?Jesus, himself.
Does this clarify? Read this three times before answering this question.
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The ambiguous and limitless "light" becomes the sun, moon, and the stars, in their cosmic dance in the skys overhead (the ancients knew these stars were not in motion, which is why they are called the "Fixed Luminaries" the "movement of the planets is an internal process, and the Zohar says as much, to those who bother to read. Still it was evocative as an image, and still is.
The Warm and cool jets of the atmosphere, and the precipitation forming the Waters, as the elements Hydrogen and Oxygen form in their proportions, suddenly filled with all manner of bird, and fish and flying and swimming thing.
The Land, grown to its fertility, impregnated with the very intent of God to begat humanity, which will always have the source of his toil underfoot and beyond the surface.
These are not days as you know them. The seven days of creation are a means by which a initiate, fasting and meditating for seven days can be made ready to enter into the Tabernacle, to personally be exposed to the energies of the Ark of the Covenant within the Holy of Holies, solidifying the covenent with YHVH Ha-Olam, the Lord of the Universe (or the Lord of All Worlds).
The different octaves so to speak, are that of such
Light (Fire,funny that)
Air and Water
Earth
Bodies of Light
Bodies within Air and Water
Bodies within and upon the Earth
this is clearly Elemental. And shows the exact Elemental "sequence" of the Hermetic Magick Tradition.
Also, the Connections are thus,
Fire equals Shin (Sh) Alchemical Sulphur
Air and Water are respectively Aleph and Mem - Mercury and Salt
Earth is the "union of Fire, Water, and Air, and correlates to Tau, the Cross, and the Stone of the Philosopher.
Shin is Spirit, and the Element of Fire, and the Y in YHVH, the Father.
The letters Aleph and Mem for the word AM which means "Mother" in Hebrew, and this is the HV, in YHVH. The V reveals her as the Mother, for she is impregnated by the father, with the child (the V.)
The Last H in YHVH is the same force as the mother, albeit as yet virginal, for it is not impregnated with the Vau (this is the physical human before being inspired, and self-sacrificing and being redeemed by the child, V)
She is pregnant with the (V) of the Son who will inherit the throne of his father.
Anyone who knows the "story" of the birth of ?Jesus is probably slapping their forehead at how obvious THAT symbolism is suddenly. It is clear that "God" (the Y) sends for Mary, (the final H), so she can bear his child (HV) that ?Jesus, the anointed king of kings, may be born (V).
The funny thing is, it is actually the story of Jacob(Israel) and Rebecca finally being given Joseph (father of Benjamin and Ephraim) and well predates the entire New Testament, and in fact the entire Messianic Tradition.
Great story that immaculate conception, but keep in mind, no one who wrote that was around at the time. Plain and simple, no one who has a book in the Bible has any first hand experience of the "birth of the immaculate conception" and neither is it even worth a simple mention by the ?Jesus, himself.
Does this clarify? Read this three times before answering this question.
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raum
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