I need to write an essay on this tmra..
Does anyone know of any Bible verses that suggest something different than the common "die and instantly go to heaven or hell" viewpoint held by most Christians?
Thx
Please help me right quick..
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there are tons.
Just a few come to mind in the Old Testament:
Job, chapter 14.
Psalms 88 (one of the best)
Isiah 26
In the new testement:
1 Thesselonians verse 4:16 is enough to stand by itself:
For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the archangel's voice, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.
this clearly indicates the dead are not risen until The Lord Himself will descend...
romans 6:23
finallly, the coup de grace -
Revelations shapter 20 (in full) indicates the judgement of the dead doesn't even happen until That Old Dragon is cast into the pit.
lemme know if you have any questions.
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Just a few come to mind in the Old Testament:
Job, chapter 14.
Psalms 88 (one of the best)
Isiah 26
In the new testement:
1 Thesselonians verse 4:16 is enough to stand by itself:
For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the archangel's voice, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.
this clearly indicates the dead are not risen until The Lord Himself will descend...
romans 6:23
finallly, the coup de grace -
Revelations shapter 20 (in full) indicates the judgement of the dead doesn't even happen until That Old Dragon is cast into the pit.
lemme know if you have any questions.
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I don't always just reply to reply, as i kinda dislike a bunch of one liners in threads,.. so consider that this applies to all thanks and praise i recieve on a semi-regular basis.
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Thank you all for being here, even to make the comments I don't agree with, hammer at with a mallet and chisel, Thank you for asking me the same questions over and over again (you know who you are). And especially, thank your for dropping the occasional correction on me and putting me in my place!
but especially, thank you all for adding your own ideas, opinions, and knowledge to this compendium of higher thought.
sincerely,
raum
YOU ARE ALL WELCOME.
Thank you all for being here, even to make the comments I don't agree with, hammer at with a mallet and chisel, Thank you for asking me the same questions over and over again (you know who you are). And especially, thank your for dropping the occasional correction on me and putting me in my place!
but especially, thank you all for adding your own ideas, opinions, and knowledge to this compendium of higher thought.
sincerely,
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Raum, you are amazing and are the smartest man I think I know. Glad to hear your imput sometimes....
"If there were no eternal consciousness in a man, if at the bottom of everything there were only a wild ferment, a power that twisting in dark passions produced everything great or inconsequential; if an unfathomable insatiable emptiness lay hid beneath everything, what would life be but despair?"
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Raum, i dont mean to always respond in one-liners, its just that usually all i feel worthy and intelligent enough to write after you post..
but thx for helpin me, i got ridiculed by an ethics teacher for writing "I dont know" to that question what happens when you die...He thought I didnt try, I was like 'man i thought you would know me well enough that when I put that, its a legitimate I DONT KNOW" LoL..
Anyway, props...sup with website by the way..u need anything for it? i got dreamweaver almost on lock now
but thx for helpin me, i got ridiculed by an ethics teacher for writing "I dont know" to that question what happens when you die...He thought I didnt try, I was like 'man i thought you would know me well enough that when I put that, its a legitimate I DONT KNOW" LoL..
Anyway, props...sup with website by the way..u need anything for it? i got dreamweaver almost on lock now
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deeje, don't get me wrong...
ya'll are all welcome to add the all the one liners you want!
i just am on a laptop, and it takes forever for my laptop to submit a reply!
especially while I am working on my website, and churning out new stuff all the time.
raum
ya'll are all welcome to add the all the one liners you want!
i just am on a laptop, and it takes forever for my laptop to submit a reply!
especially while I am working on my website, and churning out new stuff all the time.
raum
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