The civilization of civilizations..!
Or so I am told...But I am not an Egyptologist, no do I know one...Though, I know raum, and I bet you that he knows...I think this will break off into a pretty good discussion, so lets have at it...
Just how "Advanced" was Ancient Egypt..?
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Hey everybody welcome back!
For now, just some comments to Call me Joe's words...
I'd also gather that the Egyptians had SOME effective medicine, as their forensics ability in dissecting and preserving a cadaver is still in use, at least in part. They were also the first documented persons to use anesthesia. Also remarkably (and some say intentionally), their architecture reveals the amazing understanding they had of the proportions of a healthy human body, information that Moses learned, being Pharoah's adopted son. This is part of the sacred teachings of the Jews.
The real challenge here, though, is figuring out WHICH *Egyptians* did it. All of the area was at the least three kingdoms at any given time, many wanted nothing to do with one another. Even to most of the world, the citizens of these kingdoms were indistinguishable.
Military considerations of note are not easy to find. We certainly know that the kingdoms exhausted huge amounts of resources in their wars, and they solidly and repeatedly whooped Ethiopia and several other peoples that they wiped "completely" off the face of the earth (mostly by adopting the surviviors), which was quite a feat for some time.
The other challenge is that much of what showed up in egypt, had really just rolled down the silk road to that place, and was not native to the area at all.
The most significant proofs are in the temples of Karnak, which shows evidence of electric power (at least for lighting), in glyph and apparatus. They apparently used pomegranates and citrus fruit to generate enough energy and conducted it through "nu" glass bowls that were pressurized with a luminescent agent inside. The impact was basically, that when in Rituals of the Priesthood, they had "blacklight" to similute the removal into the vast expansiveness of Nu, the Lady of the Void, and First Born Daughter of Ra, which Ra chaces the serpent Apep in, and where the righteous dead go to assist Ra in the hunt.
These advancements reflect the philosophy of the people.
I only say one errata in your statements:
The glassware was from the Jews who invented glassblowing, or made by the Jews who did not leave for the exodus and stayed in the "Mitzraim" (Narrow Place).
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(damn I missed writing that word!)
Probably enven their Nu bowls....
For now, just some comments to Call me Joe's words...
I'd also gather that the Egyptians had SOME effective medicine, as their forensics ability in dissecting and preserving a cadaver is still in use, at least in part. They were also the first documented persons to use anesthesia. Also remarkably (and some say intentionally), their architecture reveals the amazing understanding they had of the proportions of a healthy human body, information that Moses learned, being Pharoah's adopted son. This is part of the sacred teachings of the Jews.
The real challenge here, though, is figuring out WHICH *Egyptians* did it. All of the area was at the least three kingdoms at any given time, many wanted nothing to do with one another. Even to most of the world, the citizens of these kingdoms were indistinguishable.
Military considerations of note are not easy to find. We certainly know that the kingdoms exhausted huge amounts of resources in their wars, and they solidly and repeatedly whooped Ethiopia and several other peoples that they wiped "completely" off the face of the earth (mostly by adopting the surviviors), which was quite a feat for some time.
The other challenge is that much of what showed up in egypt, had really just rolled down the silk road to that place, and was not native to the area at all.
The most significant proofs are in the temples of Karnak, which shows evidence of electric power (at least for lighting), in glyph and apparatus. They apparently used pomegranates and citrus fruit to generate enough energy and conducted it through "nu" glass bowls that were pressurized with a luminescent agent inside. The impact was basically, that when in Rituals of the Priesthood, they had "blacklight" to similute the removal into the vast expansiveness of Nu, the Lady of the Void, and First Born Daughter of Ra, which Ra chaces the serpent Apep in, and where the righteous dead go to assist Ra in the hunt.
These advancements reflect the philosophy of the people.
I only say one errata in your statements:
The glassware was from the Jews who invented glassblowing, or made by the Jews who did not leave for the exodus and stayed in the "Mitzraim" (Narrow Place).
vertical,
raum
(damn I missed writing that word!)
Probably enven their Nu bowls....
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I greatly disagree wit Joe, honestly i think u misunderstood the word advanced M8
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Welcome Tommy,
So, if you think the question implied something else, educate us as to what you infer from the question. I agree it could be taken in amyn difrent ways, but the word advanced can certainly be used to indicate their technical status.
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So, if you think the question implied something else, educate us as to what you infer from the question. I agree it could be taken in amyn difrent ways, but the word advanced can certainly be used to indicate their technical status.
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sorry for the last post, it was short n not meaningful coz i'm a lazy guy
wat i disagree wit Joe is that he said "it's (meaning civilizations) just changed". No, they really do advance, far more than a change. I'm sure people in general nowadays are more intelligent, or at least look more than human they should be. For example, do ancient people know about computer things ? Or at least can they make real clothes n houses for themselves ?
wat i disagree wit Joe is that he said "it's (meaning civilizations) just changed". No, they really do advance, far more than a change. I'm sure people in general nowadays are more intelligent, or at least look more than human they should be. For example, do ancient people know about computer things ? Or at least can they make real clothes n houses for themselves ?
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There are things in ancient culture that we cannot duplicate or understand...
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QUOTE(ADN)There are things in ancient culture that we cannot duplicate or understand...
QUOTE(Tommy)That's because we lack of evidence or proof, and different way of thinking
Right. Yes, we might not be able to understand or duplicate things from ancient culture due to our own way of thinking and lack of evidence.
But who is to say that ancient cultures could not understand or duplicate things from modern cultures?
And I'll say it again in another way...............
The things that ancient civilisations had seem beyond modern reasoning, but that doesn't mean that modern things are beyond the reasoning of ancient civilisations.
It all depends on how you think. Sure, you can hammer a nail with the edge of a saw handle, but the saw would be more efficent at cutting wood. A hammer could be used to break wood into pieces, but it would be more efficient at nailing objects together.
QUOTE(Tommy)That's because we lack of evidence or proof, and different way of thinking
Right. Yes, we might not be able to understand or duplicate things from ancient culture due to our own way of thinking and lack of evidence.
But who is to say that ancient cultures could not understand or duplicate things from modern cultures?
And I'll say it again in another way...............
The things that ancient civilisations had seem beyond modern reasoning, but that doesn't mean that modern things are beyond the reasoning of ancient civilisations.
It all depends on how you think. Sure, you can hammer a nail with the edge of a saw handle, but the saw would be more efficent at cutting wood. A hammer could be used to break wood into pieces, but it would be more efficient at nailing objects together.
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