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Orson Smelles wrote:I'm sure you can find it on the BBC World site,raum. I didn't read it on the net. I was watching the BBC World cable channel. It was tied in to the post-debate discussion their reporters & guests were hashing out.
I looked for it on BBC World, and didn't see it; so I asked here. I don't doubt it (or you), just wanted to read about it. Being that I wrote a VERY interesting report on data capture and analysis, I am generally more interested in the and methodology of a poll than what its seeming results are. But that must have been a fun talking point, and I wouldn't not challenge that general statement. Several polls demonstrate most Americans don't know fundamental parts of the Govt. (like number of members of Congress) and 1 in 120 can accurately identify the number and order of the Bill of Rights. Less than 50 Americans in every 120 sampled could name 5 of those rights.

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I fucking knew the McPalin camp were gonna play the race card eventually when shit started closing in on them..
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Playing the race card.? What happened..?

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This article phrased my thoughts on her punkbitch move better than I could've:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1026874.html

Obama-hate, and Sarah Palin's War on Terror
By Bradley Burston
Tags: Palin, Israel News, Burston

If you are planning to vote for John McCain because you view him as a man of rare integrity, demonstrated courage, intellectual and political independence, and because you believe him to be more seasoned and more savvy than Barack Obama in the realms of foreign policy, the applications of military force, and such domestic issues as taxation, health care, social security and welfare reform, you can stop reading this right now.

If you have decided to vote for Sarah Palin because you admire her as gutsy and fresh-thinking and an authentic Reagan Republican, and because you identify with her views on abortion, the right to buy and hold arms, and the excesses and interventions of big government, you can stop right here.

This is not going to be a column about issues, nor fitness for high office. And though this is not about racism in the classical sense, it is specifically about the passion and prejudices - race being just one of them - with which some people hate Barack Obama.

Obama-hate is worth a close look not only for what it tells us about political campaigns, but for what it can teach us about America itself, its divisions and the possibility of healing.

This is, as well, about the role Sarah Palin can play in the process. She can, if she chooses, elevate the level of debate on the urgent challenges Americans must face. Or she can say something like this:

"We see America as the greatest force for good in this world," Palin told a fund-raising event in Colorado on Sunday. "Our opponent though, is someone who sees America, it seems, as being so imperfect that he's palling around with terrorists who would target their own country."

"This is not a man who sees America like you and I see America," she said. "We see America as a force of good in this world."

Since taking the national stage a month ago, Sarah Palin has been subjected to an onslaught of invective, dismissal, insult and smear. Now, the debate safely behind her, she has chosen a new means of response: incitement.

Does she really believe that Barack Obama, and by extension, those who support him, do not see America as a force for good in this world?

If she does not, her statement was obscene. If she does, America as a whole is in trouble. And not because she's right.

There are many among her admirers who celebrate her for speaking unvarnished truth, for saying out loud the kinds of things that "you and I" really feel.

The problem is not unvarnished truth, but thinly varnished hatred.

As she proved in her speeches accepting John McCain's and her party's nominations, Governor Palin is a person with acute skills of self-expression. She knows exactly what response - and what bigotry - she will elicit when she denigrates the concept of a "community organizer."

Just as she knows precisely what message she's sending when she states that Barack Obama "is not a man who sees America like you and I see America."

She knows to the letter what flags she's flying when she implies that Obama not only does not love his country but reviles it, even to the point of being a fellow traveler to subversives and potential terror murderers.

Nor is it any accident that she uses the term "terrorists" - unnamed, plural, and in general usage in America, often referring to Islamic radicals - rather than focusing on the one man in question.

Sarah Palin has crossed a line. She could have used her powers of persuasion to advance her ideals. Instead, she has joined those who have chosen to fight Obama with prejudice. In the process, she has widened America's fault lines, equating her coy "you and I" with love of country. Her opponent, then, is the Non-Us, the AntiUs, and, by extension, the Unamerican.

Is this to be the Palin Doctrine - that the Right has a lock on love of country?

In making the Colorado declaration, which she was to repeat twice more that day, she drew a stark distinction between those who love America - her people - and those who love Barack Obama.

In doing so, and in tarring him as a man who consorts with terrorists, she has joined those who have leveraged other lies to extraordinary success, in particular, the lie that Obama is a Muslim.

It was the phenomenal power of the Muslim lie that has lent fuel to all others. The falsehood granted free rein to intolerance. It has successfully disguised racism as patriotism. It has granted false license to irrational suspicion and grotesque stereotyping on the basis of faith.

In short, it has freed people to hate a black man right out loud.

In painting her opponent as a fellow traveler with subversives and terrorists, Palin has joined those who have promulgated bigotry in inciting against Obama, those who say, in clear hints if not in so many words:

1. Vote against Obama because you fear and loathe Muslims

2. Vote against Obama because you fear and loathe Arabs.

3. Vote against Obama because you've had all you can take of affirmative action, immigrants, names which defy pronunciation, pluralism, and bend-over-backwards tolerance.

4. Vote against Obama because liberal Democrats are hypocritical wimps, not real Christians, and, in fact, closet gays - and deserve to be punished.

5. Vote against Obama because the New York media and Hollywood deserve to be exposed and disgraced.

6.Vote against Obama because in this day and age in America, white people get the short end of the stick.

7. Vote against Obama because the one group facing the worst discrimination is the community of believing Christian Republicans.

8. Vote against Obama because blacks hate whites.

9. Vote against Obama because even though Jews once helped blacks, blacks hate Jews.

10. Vote against Obama because the Left hates America. Because liberals are ruining America's core institutions, schools, the military, the economy.

In segregating America into Us and AntiUs, Sarah Palin is asking for the votes of all Americans in order to speak for half of them. The half she believes loves the country. In denying Barack Obama his love of country, she has denied the vision, the values, and the profound patriotism of the remainder. In doing do, she does a disservice to both sides, and to America.
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Make sure you read all 3 short pages. An article echoing my suspicions on Palin's prez ambitions:

http://www.alternet.org/election08/1016 ... ry_mccain/



More fudging on the troop numbers from the McPalin camp:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-tr ... thful.html
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Fey's & Co's latest Zinger..

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The Terrorist she was talking about is William Ayers. He not black, not a Muslim, an Arab; just a chicken shit traitor who rose to professorship for masking marxism with activism. The two of them have spoken in common often, and downplayed their relationship to each other alot.

But it is so much easier to hate than to understand.

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I never said Ayers was black, you tool. I'm calling out Palin & co for using the divisive race card cos she's tryin' to scare folks away from Obama by painting the black prez cantidate as scheming with homeland terrorists. And you know damn good & well that's what i meant. It's the fear & the race cards rolled up in one.
raum wrote:But it is so much easier to hate than to understand.
Understand what? That a racist divisive slutbag wants to run the US of A?. Oh I understand that fa sho'. I don't hate on her. I fear her & her ambitions & what she's willing to do to get what she wants. If she gets the top job,She'll make the Texan & his crew look like pikers in the damage she'll inflict on your country & the globe.
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she never once said anything racist.

This article preys on racism fears and hatred. It says she is using the word "terrorist" to make people thing scary muslim... when no one suggested that.

The use of the words "us" is clearly not racist - it is a reference to the middle class that support them, liberal spendthrifts and washington speacial interests setting up a facists paradise.

As for William Ayers, he is an avowed domestic terrorist, and she did specify domestic.

As for him not seeing America like me, damn skippy. He is a liberal socialist consorting with Marxist terrorists.

This "article" is misleading... and preying upon the fear and hatred of racism, which is its own form of racism. But the author doesn't care - I am sure they feel the end justifies the means.

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